My concerns about the proposed public funding model for elections were discussed today extensively in the House. (See ) #politaskevinbonham.blogspot.com/2022/11/how-no…
I have just heard Attorney-General Archer's response and my jaw is on the floor. She has claimed the ACT is different from Tasmania because the ACT has above the line voting. It does not.
Look I'm sure it's just because she's being incredibly badly advised by someone who needs to be sacked but AG Archer has, in trying to refute my suggestion, misled the House and in the process wrongly implied I don't know how ACT voting works. Must correct the record or resign.
I hesitate to retweet strong swearing onto the delicate and genteel #politas hashtag but um yeah this.
The ACT *originally* had above the line voting in the system it had from 1989-1992 but that was abolished in 1994. The ACT has continued to apply public funding by party without above the line voting for 8 elections over 28 years since.
Even if the ACT was forced to use per-party funding, which it hasn't been for 28 years, that would still not make per-candidate funding an even remotely good idea.
Archer's comments have also strawmanned my position by saying I have a belief that parties would "seek to have voters not vote for their own members". That is not what I have said. What I have said is that parties may seek to engineer *which* of their candidates voters support.
So after a contribution that shows a spectacular lack of research (the ACT has NEVER had above the line and Hare-Clark at the same time) the AG then attacks another member claiming that the other member hasn't done their research.
Glass houses, stones etc.
Then goes on to talk about the importance of getting facts straight in a detailed debate. Yes indeed it is and she hasn't done it.
She doesn't agree that the Bill will have the dire consequences I've foreshadowed. In terms of one of them (more successful parties getting a higher share of their votes reimbursed) this sounds like another politician who wants to disagree with the laws of mathematics.
Incidentally Labor did attempt to graft an ATL model onto Hare-Clark in the ACT in 1993. Fortunately a crossbench revolt killed it (nice work Michael Moore and Helen Szuty who were evidently not messing around on this).
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Voice referendum connotations aside, seems rather bland/populist to me, could be another Vern Hughes party for all you know from the name. Presumably intent is to harvest Voice Yes voters. Please no more Farnham ads.
From interview this morning party sounds like it is trying to run between Labor and the Greens by depicting itself as more principled than the former and more pragmatic than the latter (rather short on examples).
Yes could well be this too. A party called Voices for the Senate (later Independent Voices for the Senate) couldn't get registered in time for 2022 because nobody cared about running teals in the Senate and has since deregistered.
NT election news: a realignment is underway in Fannie Bay and in the first two booths the Greens are just below their current target - but these are bad booths for them so they should do better elsewhere.
(I don't just mean very close between ALP and Greens - CLP are right in this and probably now want the Greens to stay second.)
The 56.2% 2PP for CLP is unrepresentative at the moment because it is based off 2 good booths for them, it will come down. But I think once the count is realigned they will be very slightly ahead of the Greens.
Excellent: Victorian Electoral Matters committee has recommended abolition of Group Ticket Voting in the upper house, with or without changes to the regional system. #springst
EM has also recommended Parliament refer the question of regional structure back for a further inquiry.
Report proposes adopting a Senate style system with voters asked to number at least 5 boxes if voting ATL, savings provisions as in Senate for those numbering fewer.
#Redbridge L-NP leads 51.5-48.5 (+3.5 to L-NP since MRP in May) ALP 32 L-NP 41 Grn 11 others 16
(I get 51.1 by last-election prefs off the published primaries, close enough to the same thing given the lack of minor party breakdown).
41 is the highest Coalition primary in any poll this term.
My last-election prefs aggregate following Redbridge 50.3 to ALP. Is something finally happening?
Interesting poll in that the ALP primary hasn't actually changed since the late May Redbridge MRP. Rather, Coalition is up 5% at the expense of Greens (2) and others (3) and that shift is worth close enough to 3.5% 2PP.
Just a general comment about all support for "truth in electoral advertising" laws - I understand that many people think that they are now more important than ever to combat Trumpy candidates with no regard for truth, but that view is naive.
Trumpy candidates would fall foul of such laws, sure, but they would just get off on it. Every finding against them would be cited as more evidence of an elite conspiracy against them and used to get more publicity.
There's also plenty of Voice grievance fuelling the movement at the moment but the Yes side managed to at least arguably, twice, trip over the very limited misleading material provisions we have. Anyone who thinks such laws would only catch the right is kidding themselves.
"While the Constitution was hard to change it was not meant to be impossible"
There's no evidence it's impossible. Rather we know that putting up contestable proposals mid-term kills them, this isn't a valid test of a serious attempt to change.
The specific Voice proposal was seriously flawed. It argued in effect that politicians could not do their job for First Nations people without an entrenched body to advise them, but also that politicians should be given unlimited scope to design that body as they wished.
The internal logic of this specific amendment proposal was absurd. It got what votes it did partly because many believed that anything that even might help fix Indigenous disadvantage was better than nothing, especially when a No vote would be taken as a vote for nothing.