welcome to another thrilling edition of "Char tweets a bunch of SPN screencaps in a row with no further commentary or explanation and counts it as meta"
but now, an extra cursed and probably more incomprehensible version, featuring #TheWinchesters
these are like "if you know then you know" threads, but if you want an explanation, unfortunately I will not be elaborating at this time so all I can do is point you to where the elaboration resides
Yeah okay hi.
I am still thinking about #TheWinchesters & about 1x04 specifically, & how it's peeled back some of the layers in John's story & revealed to us that it's a QUEER story, & I'm still going bonkers.
John Winchester Is Bi Because Dean Winchester Is Bi: The Episode 🧵
Look, I've got WAY too much to say about this ep & I've already said quite a few things in bits & pieces here & there. But if I don't go into at least a BIT more detail about this it's gonna haunt me, even as everything in this thread likely won't be the whole of it.
Formal disclaimer:
If you do not like or get upset about...
• the existence of this show
• looking at John as a nuanced character
• the topic of John being queer
• the fact that Dean is canonically bisexual
Then this thread is not for you! & I am not making you read it!
Look, if there’s one thing I’ve decided about this show, none of them are too crazy to do ANYTHING because the very fact we’re discussing this is evidence of that lmao.
Simultaneously though: it’s WAY too early to make solid predictions about John & Carlos.
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All I know is John was/is in love with Murph & he thinks Carlos is hot. Saying either of those things at all—let alone with definitive certainty—would have sounded like I needed to be institutionalized 2 weeks ago. & yet here we are! & it’s only episode 4!
I agree that Robbie & co are likely aware of optics of putting John in a (new) m/m relationship & having that TAKEN later. Are there ways to do it well & have the loss be organic? Certainly. Could they hook up & be messy & not date? I mean, yeah. LEGIT who knows.
Something I don’t think I’m seeing a lot of people elaborate on is Millie & John in ep4. More specifically… Millie clearly loves & has done her best by John, but part of that involved instilling lessons of toxic masculinity into him in his father’s absence.
this subtitle / part of the song combined with this image...... after the god erased the scar from Murph’s death that John had on his arm........ help me ;___; #TheWinchesters
God I’m fucked up over this
“My friend died and all I got was this lousy scar”
And then EVEN THE SCAR IS TAKEN FROM HIM, as a god tries to make him a clean slate and tells him to hold onto his anger instead of talking
I get having bitterness & baggage but for the love of God not everything is world-ending levels of serious
particularly because in this case we even know John marries Mary!!!! if he wants to check out Carlos let him, if people including cast want to ship them let them, it’s FUN
RIGHT? What a mess!
Conservative propaganda
the idea that every bit of queer content has to be some epic love story that satisfies everyone’s checklists of “perfect” is BORING
or that anything a cast member says is a contract in blood stating “these characters will fuck”
Compelled by how heavy last week's ep was on Destiel parallels, & how heavy THIS week's ep was on bisexuality / being manipulated into a cycle of violence by a god.
I think what happened to Jack at the end of the SPN (Dean unwittingly sacrificed his son as part of "Abraham & Isaac" & Chuck won via theater) is not always top of mind for people–in comparison to, for example, Destiel or Dean's relationship to HIS parents.
There's looking here at how John & Mary feel about their parents & thinking about how Dean feels about HIS parents, yea? But a subtle undercurrent is thinking of John & Mary as parents. That forward direction is also a forward direction for Dean, as HE'S a parent. #TheWinchesters