A big milestone for China's offshore wind that I missed a few weeks ago: Shandong's first GRID PARITY offshore wind project (500MW) was connected to the grid.
This means the offshore wind power is generated at a unit cost level competitive with coal-fired power.
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According to the news, the Shandong Bozhong project achieved an LCOE of 400 RMB/MWh, (USD 56.90) basically at the same level as the Shandong base coal price (394.9 RMB/MWh).
It represents a huge, HUGE decline in construction costs for offshore wind in the past few years.
For contrast, the average LCOE of the already-existing offshore wind in China is around 790 RMB/MWh, nearly twice as much as this new project. These projects were built a few years ago, during the subsidy era.
In 2010, offshore wind cost per MWh in China was well over 1000 RMB.
Major factors for LCOE decline:
-Improvements in turbine blades, esp. length, allowing them to generate more power, more cost-effectively.
-Decrease in construction costs due to experience, economies of scale. Big cost drops for crane vessels, maritime labor, maritime cables.
Offshore wind is particularly important for the long-term decarbonization plans of China's industrialized coastal provinces like Shandong, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Guangdong precisely because they lack onshore land for deployment of solar or wind (or land usage fees are sky-high).
For now, some of these provinces have been able to keep their renewable capacity growth strong via mass deployment of rooftop solar (particularly Shandong, which leads the nation).
But the available rooftops will eventually run out, while the growth in demand will not.
That's what makes control and mastery of offshore wind development costs so important for China.
It's major part of the equation for coastal provinces securing low-carbon power at reasonable prices (via their preferred in-province investment, not via cross-province imports).
For instance, here's Shanghai a few days ago, soliciting tenders to build an 800 MW offshore wind farm PLUS STORAGE at an unit cost no higher than the Shanghai coal base price of 415.5 RMB/MWh.
This would have been impossible just a few years ago.
Well yes demand growth actually WILL run out someday, but way after the available rooftops do.
*Important note*
Although this project claims to have achieved an LCOE of 400 RMB/MWh, which is nearly level with the coal-fired base price in Shandong, I was unaware that Shandong offers a provincial capacity subsidy for offshore wind constructed from 2022-2024.
Thus, it should be inappropriate to refer to this project as "grid-parity". Although it will sell its power into the open markets with no subsidy on volume, it most likely had a one-off capacity subsidy at *construction* of 800CNY/kW.
hat tip to @MhehedZherting for the correction
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No. Some Chinese want to get rich. Some want to make art, or start a climate NGO, or be in a rock band, or help rural farmers sell honey, or join the navy. They want to improve themselves, provide a better life for their children and take care of their aging parents. They could be motivated by personal dreams and ambitions, familial or social obligations, nationalism, a virtous desire to "do good", or a hundred other things besides "wanting to get rich". Just like everyone else on the planet. It's irresponsible misrepresentation to talk like this.
The pure accumulation of material wealth to sustain certain lifestyle was a more prevalent motivator in decades past, when the society was at a lower rung on Maslow's ladder, but the times have changed.
"Their work ethic is correlated with their desire to succeed. This is a primary threat to anyone competing with them."
They do this not because they're Chinese, but because they're human, and that's what humans striving to win in success-limited conditions do. Making out this out to be some kind of Chinese cultural trait is just orientalism.
"I harnessed it and improved the lives of many"
This comes across as some kind of savior complex. OP employed Chinese people in factories to make goods that he sold for profit. He brags in the replies to his thread that he made good money doing this. Apparently that means he "harnessed" their work ethic to improve their lives. I hope he doesn't pull any muscles, straining so hard to pat himself on the back.
"The Chinese want to be taken seriously, and they want to take over the world. Literally."
Yes very much on on the first part. But the second part about "China wants to take over the world" is unsupported nonsense. I wonder what exactly OP thinks "literally" means? And how he would back up this claim?
"They want to prove how great they are and how everyone else is inferior and wrong"
This is quite wrong. Sure, Chinese people want respect, and to be recognized for their strengths. Once again, that's not particularly *Chinese* so much as it's human. Issues only really arise when that respect is not given, or the recognition is withheld, which is also a pretty universal cultural reaction.
China has strong affinity for the wisdom of "different strokes for different folks", and easily accepts that what makes sense for China doesn't necessarily make sense for other places and vice versa. The most common attitude towards cultural differences is not that they arise due to inferiority or wrongness, but because of different primary conditions between Chinese and non-Chinese people.
Thus, the instinct to evangelize a Chinese way of thinking or acting to non-Chinese peoples is pretty weak. By contrast, Western expats are often afflicted with a strong desire to evangelize their ways of thinking and doing things, and subsequently get frustrated when they find limited receptivity. A common and unfortunate outcome is they process this frustration as "Chinese believe everyone else is inferior and wrong".
"Nationalism is very strong. They may disagree with Xi, but criticism (sic) him and see the reaction"
Nationalism IS strong and growing. After all, there's continually more to be proud about. But this logic is erroneous. Chinese people are rational opinion-having actors, not Pavlovian hamsters, and linking pride in being Chinese to having a negative reaction to criticism of Xi is a non sequitur.
Like any human responding to the opinions of others, if you make a criticism they agree with, you'll get a positive response, and if you criticize something they don't agree with, you'll get a negative reaction. That's how humans with beliefs defend their beliefs - not an exclusively Chinese trait.
Last week, I presented orally at a hearing of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Comission on China's efforts in the clean energy transition, focusing on industrial electrification.
Testimony and recording in link. This is a summary thread. 🧵
China has already achieved dominance of the current "big three" pillars of cleantech: solar PV, batteries, and EVs.
To these, add wind turbines and ultra high-voltage transmission, and China's 2030 carbon emissions peaking target seems quite assured.
But what then?
Yes, the emissions peak is mathematically inevitable, with both coal consumption and petroleum consumption having already peaked, or about to peak, depending on to whom you speak. But what must happen post-2030 to ensure the peak turns into a decline, and not just a plateau?
Broadly speaking, the USA's China strategy as informed by guys who did a stint in the country 15-20 years ago has been so ineffective and incoherent that it's quite likely you could get sharper China policy and advisory from people who have never been here at all.
IMO, being an expat in China 15 yrs ago grants NEGATIVE effectiveness as a source of insight for policymaking/advisory in 2025.
Similar to HK or TW expats, their knowledge is worse than ignorance. They actively misinform, usually to the detriment of their OWN objectives.
It's not impossible to do better, and policymakers must do so to survive. Where do you imagine the fantasy that China would fold under tariff pressure because of its export reliance came from?
China Taxicab Chronicles: Mrs. Mi Will Buy a House in Kashgar
I'm heading to a meeting in Pudong. Mrs. Mi picks me up in a new GAC Aion Y and confirms my phone number.
Her accent sounds like me in Chinese class 15 years ago. Mandarin is clearly not her first language. 🧵
"You...you're not Chinese, right?" she asks.
"No, I'm American. Do I look Chinese?"
"You look Arabic, or from Afghanistan. But you sound Chinese"
"I've been here a long time"
"How long?"
"13 years"
"Oh, longer than me"
"How long have you been in Shanghai?"
"Over one year"
"Ah, welcome to Shanghai. I can hear your accent...you're from Xinjiang right? What part?"
"Yes. I'm from Kashgar"
"Oh, Southern Xinjiang. I have friends from Korla and Yili, but I don't know anyone from that far south."
"Yes, that's Northern Xinjiang. Different from us."
While everyone was busy freaking out about the Trump tariffs, China released a new list of its major low-carbon demo projects for 2025
This is Batch 2 - the first batch was announced last year.
All of them are important and ground-breaking projects...101 of them in total.🧵
Remember, the title of National Demonstration Project is a powerful designation with many practical benefits to project owners, including direct financial and fiscal support, policy and approval advantages, increased access to technology and talent resources, prioritization in government procurement events, and long-term institutional backing from local authorities (for example, being written into the province's five-year plan).
This list of projects is basically a direct summary of what national energy stakeholders think are the most important cutting-edge items in furthering the national low-carbon energy agenda, and a promise to support those projects to achieve success.
I won't go through the entire list one-by-one...that would be way too long, but I did review the list so I could provide some high-level summary of the types of projects on the list, and pick out some that I thought were particularly notable.
This is a longish and text-heavy thread, so it definitely won't be for everyone. But if you want to get an early view on what's happening on the cutting edge of China's energy transition tech, and not be shocked when they make some big announcement in a year or two, then this is the thread for you.
I'll provide link at the end of the thread for both Batch 1 and 2, of course, so you can review on your own. Okay, let's go.
When they teach about the rise of China in textbooks someday, I hope there's at least a section about how USA institutions psy-opped themselves into utter helplessness by meticulously sourcing all their primary insights from copium vendors. This could be a thesis.
No need to actually write the thesis yourself though; DeepSeek's got it covered.
"Institutionalized Copium Networks" I'm gonna borrow that one for the future.
This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. These are exactly the narratives that people, want, need to believe are meaningful, so they can make themselves believe Everything is Fine.
Freedom and lack of corruption is the USA's secret sauce? Oh buddy...