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Scoop: I am hearing far fewer than expected devs hit "yes".

Elon sent out an email relaxing remote working from the former draconian policy.

I'm hearing he is having meetings w top engineers to convince them to stay.

Sounds like playing hardball does not work. Ofc it doesn't.
The new remote policy is how remote work is approved as long as the manager of the engineer takes responsibility that the dev makes excellent contributions.

In-person meetings w teammates are expected ideally weekly; the very least monthly.

A week ago:

"From my larger group of 50 people, 10 are staying, 40 are taking the severance. Elon set up meetings with a few who plan to quit."

I don't blame people quitting. They've been offered intimidation, ever-changing policies the last minute, long hours, and an ultimatum.
I am not sure Elon realizes that, unlike rocket scientists, who have relatively few options to work at, devs with the experience of building Twitter only have better options than the conditions he outlines.

Plus they remember how this was two days ago:

Plus, we're talking about a leader who lost respect with their engineers when an engineer *corrected* him about why the Twitter app was slow.

That engineer was right.

Elon fired him.

Give people fear and intimidation, then a way out: guess what they choose. Well, now we see.
From a dev: "so this new policy makes remote working infeasible. It makes the manager responsible for "excellent contributions" of the direct. If it does not happen: manager is fired.

Managers have 20+ reports and don't have time to check in. So they'll demand in-office work...
I meant it when I called Elon's latest ultimatum the first truly positive thing about this Twitter saga.

Because finally, everyone who had enough of the BS and is not on a visa could finally quit. Lots of the people staying are on visas btw.

The unnecessary brutality Musk has treated all 7,500 Twitter employees has been mind-nubing. I keep saying that tech is pretty small, so be kind to people. He's done the opposite for 3 weeks.

Week 1: turmoil blog.pragmaticengineer.com/turmoil-at-twi…

Week 2: cruel changes blog.pragmaticengineer.com/cruel-changes-…
Unless something changes, Twitter's engineering workforce could be down by 90%, in just 3 weeks (!!!).

Elon fired 50%.

Then fired a few more for correcting him.

Now 80% of the remaining 50% could take severance.

Here's what I think will happen:
Twitter *cannot* afford to lose that many devs and keep operating. Heck, they have barely started hiring new ones, and those hires will not come through the door for several weeks!

I'm assuming Elon will have to throw money at this:
- Retention bonuses
- Short-term contracts
I heard some ppl suggest that Musk has made Tesla a success, SpaceX a success, and we should not judge too early, as he has a track record.

I agree.

But my question is: why treat people with zero respect? And once he does this, what does he expect, when those ppl have options?
Clear to me that Twitter needs to hire new people ASAP plus retain some existing ppl for handovers.

Too many bridges burnt with most devs.

All of this is just completely nonsensical. I get he wants to move fast, but why wreck the company while at it?

The irony is a lot of the software engineers liked some of the changes. E.g. the speed up in the pace. Elon spending time at Twitter.

But, as an eng is saying "we got what we wanted the worst possible way." Faster pace by working on weekends. Elon cancelling remote overnight.
Another sw engineer was telling me he was *really* excited when Elon took over, and could not wait to work with him.

Then was confused why Elon treated Twitter so poorly. Eg didn't even talk with staff.

Then this person was fired as part of the 50%.

Why let go even supporters?
Talking with a software engineer who was fired by Musk. This person is saying they are conflicted. They feel mistreated, but want Twitter to survive - *in spite* of him, because of its outsized importance to the world.

I agree.

Hope Musk sorts this fully self-inflicted crisis.
The odds of a service outage have, sadly gone up with so many leaving. Though good news deploys are locked down (no changes: fewer outages!)

Follow me on LI: linkedin.com/in/gergelyorosz and subscribe to newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/about in the hopefully unlikely case that Twitter has a blip
Deadline passed and lots of people did not blink when given the ultimatum.

Let that sink in.
Pretty much what earlier employee internal polls showed.

Brutal and entirely self-inflicted.

Twitter will be run on a skeleton crew that’s ~10-15% of what it was 3 weeks ago.

So much institutional knowledge walked out the door.

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This is either brilliant or scary:

Anthropic accidentally leaked the TS source code of Claude Code (which is closed source). Repos sharing the source are taken down with DMCA.

BUT this repo rewrote the code using Python, and so it violates no copyright & cannot be taken down! Image
The repo: github.com/instructkr/cla…

The brilliance: copyright does not protect derived works. Rewriting TypeScript code in Python means copyright no longer applies.

The scary thing: it can be done in trivial amount of time, with AI agents. This one was done with Codex.

This can be done not just for this specific codebase, but any codebase. So what happens with copyright? Will it evolve with AI, or be stuck pre-AI?
You can imagine Anthropic being in a pickle:

1. Do they just leave this, and look the other way, ignoring that it's not exactly fair to transform their code and leave it up there

2. Do they claim copyright applies... but this could be bad for their own business in much bigger ways: eg imagine regulation coming into play that bans this. Claude Code and other tools would have to refuse this kind of generation. Lawsuits against AI labs could spike etc

So my bet is #1 happens. Not the interest of an AI lab to expand copyright protections to derived work cretated by an LLM...
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I hate this site

The below blue checked account makes up completely fake stuff - that never happened - and it gets 2M+ views. No it didn't happen

People treat as fact, thanks to having a $8/month blue check

Fake news (often written by AI) spreads on this site like wildfire Image
The account fwiw was created a month ago and seems to try to generate outrage to get followers + ad revenue

The post is pretty much all AI generated fwiw

But it plays to the FOMO narrative of AI layoffs, and capitalizes on it. Just sad to see it spread

This account posts 10x posts like this to try and go viral, and finally did with this Amazon one

Notice the 2,847 layoffs he claimed?

2 days ago it was 2,847 applications for a role lol

This is clearly AI + shitposting and people are eating it up… while it causes anxiety Image
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Feb 23
Eh. I just don’t buy this because I actually understand specific examples all too well:

1. It paints a picture of DoorDash disrupted by vibe coded alternatives. Dude. DoorDash / Uber moat is NOT software!! It’s real-world physical logistics. AI cannot disrupt DD…

2. (cont’d)
2. The example of AI agents disrupting travel agents because AI agents can find cheaper travel deals than what travel agents offer. Also BS!!

I worked at Skyscanner (massive airline + hotel + car rental aggregator.) Travel agents have the most of offering the cheapest tickets / packages already!! Due to their deep integration, social deals.

In a world where AI agents find the cheapest deals: travel agents win, airlines get slightly less direct business!! AI agents go to Skyscanner, find cheapest deal from a travel agent, buy it!!

Then if you made a mistake you have no option to change it lol
So now the examples from two industries I know pretty well thanks to having worked there / been involved in them (travel agents + ridesharing/food delivery) read well but are just BS at the fundamental level… other parts I don’t know well read well…. but what are the chances it’s BS at its core?
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Jan 6
We’re entering the age of AI slop that people believe en masse.

This post is 100% fake and probably AI generated. All made up. Yet massive number of upvotes, views and shares.

Journalist @CaseyNewton got in touch with the “whistleblower.” The guy faked all “evidence” with AI… Image
The Reddit thread: reddit.com/r/confession/c…

Casey’s interaction with the “whistleblower” where he gradually realizes all “evidence” is AI-generated, designed to fool even journalists… then he confronts the faker. Worth the read

platformer.news/fake-uber-eats… Image
We’re entering a time when it’s harder to trust anything online: and surely more people will try to fool journalists with AI-generated “evidence.” In some cases, they will succeed, especially at publications chasing headlines and not doing proper investigation / reporting!
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Jan 3
For the last ~20 years, I did most of my coding inside an IDE - the last ~15 with increasingly good autocomplete.

Which is why it’s so weird that I barely opened an IDE the last two weeks, even as I pushed lots of code. I use the CLI, the web and my phone (!!) to prompt code
When I just started out developing I remember being so so so full of ideas that I was coding in my head and wished I could have done programming while commuting / on the bus. With eg a phone. But it was impossible, ofc.

Now it’s possible!! A massive change
I feel we’re in the middle of the biggest dev tooling change happening across the industry - and it’s happening over a few short months. And rapidly spreading everywhere.
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Nov 20, 2025
Amusing: Google does not allow its devs to use its newly launched IDE, Antigravity, for development.

They can only use an internal version called Jetski: also built by the Antigravity team, with Google-speicfic features (eg monorepo support, docs search etc)

Using Antigravity is specifically disallowed and devs cannot sign up to it with a @google.com work address
The reason for this “ban” is, of course, Google’s “tech island” tech stack: Antigravity is simply not compatible with its monorepo, and not integrated to Google’s custom tooling.

Jetski has all of this - but it's a different product. A bit like Borg vs GCP (most of Google doesn't use GCP!)
Covered a lot more on Google’s unique culture (and how they have probably the most custom tech stack across Big Tech) in this deepdive: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/google

And podcast: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/googles-engi…
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