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Writing @Pragmatic_Eng, the #1 technology newsletter on Substack. Author of @EngGuidebook. Formerly Uber & Skype.
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Apr 22 4 tweets 1 min read
Every now and then there's this prediction of when we will see the first one billion dollar company ran by one person...

... and I think back to how in 2016 there was this one product inside Uber that had crossed a $1B annual run rate that had a total of one dev allocated to it. And half a data scientist (part-time).

It was cash.

Funny how headcount games can work inside fast-growing companies, especially when the product is a stated goal of what a founder does NOT want to support (but turns out to be essential!)
Apr 11 4 tweets 1 min read
From an eng manager at a full remote company:

"We just fired an engineer after ~15 days on the job who lacked basics skills on the job but aced the interview - clearly, using cheat tools.

He admitted to how he did it: he used iAsk, ChatGPT and Interview Coder throughout" (I personally talked with this person and know them well)

This company hired full remote without issue for years: this is the first proper shocker they have.

They are changing their process, of course. In-person interviews, in-part likely to be unavoidable.
Apr 5 6 tweets 3 min read
I am coming around to why MCP is so impressive.

For one of my side projects, I used to have to log onto my database admin (PgAdmin) to query stuff.

I connected an MCP server to Postgres and can "talk" with my database (and data!)

An uplevel in my productivity + ease of work. Let me give an example of how cool this is:

I have a service that sends our promo codes for Perplexity and Kagi that paid newsletter members can claim:

I can now "talk" with the data from my IDE to get all kinds of details!

Was impossible until now newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/free-kagi-an…Image
Apr 4 5 tweets 2 min read
I'm starting to understand why there are company eng blogs not worth reading.

When doing a deepdive on an interesting company in @Pragmatic_Eng, we do research, talk with engineers, then share the draft back for any minor corrections. Usually it's a "LGTM." But sometimes: Sometimes the Comms or Brand team gets actively involved, and mistakenly assume they are the editors, and attempt to rewrite the whole thing on how they would usually publish it on eg their blog.

Every time, it's a disaster to see, but also amusing. Because a good article becomes SO bad. Interesting details removed, branding elements added etc.

(We never allow edits - and if they insist we simply publish nothing, throwing out our research. This has not yet happened, but it might be the first time it will)
Apr 4 7 tweets 2 min read
One thing that really bugs me about VCs and others projects claiming how AI will mean many devs redundant because smaller teams can do more with less: is ignoring the last.

Some of the most impactful / successful software was built by tiny teams in the 80s, 90s, 2000s. Like: Microsoft’s first product in 1975 years ago: 2 devs

Quake in 1996: 9 devs

Google’s first search engine in 1998: 4 devs

We could go on.

Small teams with outstanding people doing great things happened before GenAI and will happen after as well (and without as well!)
Mar 14 9 tweets 3 min read
A good reminder why you can pick up GenAI - and you probably should. Real story:

Small company, 5 devs. Last time they hired was 12 years ago. AI comes out: company wants to add AI feature. But they don't have the expertise. So hire an AI agency.

Agency spend 3 months planning: After 3 months, the present a very complex architecture to build: several services multiple databases, SageMaker models etc, using a language a company is not using (Python - this is a Java shop)

It will take 6-9 months to build

Operational costs will be higher fort this one feature than all of the SaaS operational costs for the company!
Feb 19 6 tweets 3 min read
Klarna was the company that went all-on replacing customer support with an AI bot and went on to brag about the cost savings.

Now they are reversing course.

Easy to see more companies blindly replacing quality customer support with a worse AI implementation will follow... Image Back when Twitter was full of influencers declaring the end of customer support thanks to Klarna I did something few people did:

Signed up for Klarna, bought an item, and used the bot.

I was NOT impressed. At all.

Called that this was... very basic. blog.pragmaticengineer.com/klarnas-ai-cha…Image
Feb 16 6 tweets 4 min read
"Leetcode-style / DSA / algorithmical interviews are useless and don't measure what's really expected on the job. They are also inefficient, and companies using these are hiring for the wrong people."

Heard this SO many times.

The responses almost always miss the point.

I'll do a longer post one day, but a few thoughts:

1. YOU are not Big Tech. You probably don't have 1,000+ qualified applicants show up for an entry-level job posting and 100+ for a senior posting - in just a day or two, without advertising it

2. When a company gets large enough combined with #1, the game becomes not reducing false negatives but reducing false positives to zero

3. "LeetCode-style interviews are BS and don't measure what you do on the job." Yes. This is part of the reason. Guess what else is BS at Big Tech? A lot of stuff? Do you think people who are unwilling to put up with BS (that has historic context and can be internalized) would last at these companies? No: they would quit shortly or be pushed out as they refuse to do what everyone else does. These interviews conveniently self-select for people who can and do put up with BS

4. Career ladders. There is a notion that a Principal engineer should be as good or better than a new grad in every area - including algo coding. Like it or not, it's how it is

5. Technical managers. Many of these companies expect managers to pass the same bar. Like it or not, again: the reality is at these places many (probably all) line managers can code, and can do it very well.

6. Scalability of process. Have you ever had the challenge of onboarding 120 new interviewers in a month? Every quarter? These companies have this problem.

7. If it ain't broken: don't fix it.

Look at the business results of Big Tech. If the interview process would be broken, it would show up in eg shipping slower and being outcompeted by competition etc. In reality: Big Tech is more nimble than ever. E.g. Threads, Copilot, Gemini etc. Their interview process works *for them*

8. You are probably not Big Tech and don't have to solve for this very distinct set of problems. Remind me how Big Tech hiring is broken when they built a new social media network in 6 months from idea to launch. This was 2x faster than e.g. Bluesky (a nimble and amazing startup btw)

Threads story: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/building-the…

Bluesky story: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/bluesky

Via @Pragmatic_Eng
Feb 16 4 tweets 2 min read
I rarely do predictions but this is an easy enough one to make:

Big Tech will bring back onsite interviews for the final round of interviews, flying in candidates.

When you pay top of market, AND do hybrid work, in the age of invisible AI helpers, remote interviews are a risk A company expecting staff to work in-office 2-3 days per week will increasingly prefer in-person (final round) interviews.

If they pay top of market: this itself will be enough for most candidates to do it. The payoff is high enough, after all.

In-person interviews also negate all "cheating" that can be done with AI. It also means existing interview formats (eg algo interview, sytems design etc) don't need to be changed to remain as effective as before!
Feb 13 4 tweets 2 min read
Don’t fall for speculation like this.

Software developer job postings are back to where they were in ~2019, following the COVID boom (and zero interest rates!).

You know what else has the same pattern? Banking jobs. Marketing jobs. Heck, HR jobs: Image Banking and finance jobs:

The story is not how software developer jobs are disappearing because of eg AI.

The story is how there was an economic boom 2021-2022, massive hiring, and now a correction.

A lot to do with zero interest rates! More: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/zirpImage
Feb 7 7 tweets 2 min read
Building a profitable company as a commercial open source one with a permissive license feels more challenging these days.

The company needs to make money: which it usually does by selling a managed version of the software.

But here’s the catch: (cont’d) 1. If the open source version of the software is standout and easy to operate: users have little to no incentive to choose the managed version

2. If the license is restrictive, competitors can simply undercut pricing. They don’t need to invest in development of the software much
Feb 3 5 tweets 2 min read
Unpopular opinion:

Developers are some of the most demanding customers to please with developer tools, and are one of the hardest business to make a profit in.

When we feel something is a ripoff... we'll build ourselves/migrate/adopt a new tool.

Often out of spite! Can't really point to another business where customers will sometimes leave a vendor even if it costs them a *lot more* to migrate off, or build a tool.

Unsaid is how it's professionally satisfying to prove that we can build a complex tool, plus it's often rewarded by leadership as well!
Jan 24 8 tweets 2 min read
The more I use GenAI coding tools, the more I am convinced keeping to "traditional" software engineering practices is what works most productive here. As in 10x more productive. E.g.

- Small changes
- Test that the change works before moving on
- (unit) tests wherever you can Amusing how error-prone all of these models are

I catch how often it generates buggy code thanks to testing and adding unit tests (I have it usually generate tests and then I tweak for my test cases)

Don't know how people are productive who let it run loose tbh
Jan 24 5 tweets 1 min read
One interesting I’m seeing with GenAI coding tools:

The MASSIVELY help technical founders at small and mid-sized startups prototype, challenge dev team, and ship products faster.

A recent example I’ve seen (cont’d): Founder: “here’s a product idea we should do.”

Dev team: “Ok. We’ll build a prototype. It will be ~2 weeks.” 1 month later there’s a prototype. Another 2 months to ship to customers.

Now: founder builds prototype in ~4 hours, shows to dev team. Team builds a more prod ready one in a week and ships to customers!
Jan 20 6 tweets 3 min read
YouTube helpfully shows what other videos people watch who stop by at The Pragmatic Engineer Podcast YouTube channel

This is either a bug, or @ThePrimeagen managed to hack YouTube (not implausible) or he went back in time to upload a video in 1970

Or.... OH WAIT I KNOW Image If you know why this says 55 years ago don't say a thing!!

(if you know you know)
Jan 15 9 tweets 4 min read
Interesting:

Meta created React Native. It’s used (with components at least) in their flagship apps: Facebook (iOS, Android), Instagram (Meta Quest), Messenger (desktop).

Google created Flutter. And yet none of their flagship apps use it (Gmail, YouTube, Maps, Calendar). The only flagship Meta app not using React Native is WhatsApp.

Google does build a lot of smaller apps with Flutter.

Just odd that Flutter can be used as modules (for a few screens) but Google, for some reason, doesn’t do with major apps.

Food for thought.
Jan 14 7 tweets 3 min read
Record revenue (on track for $156B), record profits (on track for $55B), fresh enough memories from firing 25% of staff... and Meta is at it, again.

Ruthless business rationale, as the goal is not cost savings, but firing the old, hiring the new.

Good luck to everyone at Meta. Image Source:

Hard to believe that ~2 years ago, Meta had not done any mass layoffs throughout its entire history (2004-2022)

Now it looks to become an annual tradition. What a change.bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
Jan 13 6 tweets 2 min read
This release is a big deal because:

1. It's the second major agentic coding workflow released with public access. (First one was Devin)

2. Pricing. Unlike Devin that charges $500/month right now. Copilot Workspace Preview is free.

3. GH integration. A big sell+onboarding win! This is how Copilot Workspace works. Covered 8 months ago in @Pragmatic_Eng at

I personally think it's a clever workflow that aims to make devs more productive (and not replace them, like tools like Devin advertise themselves to the business) newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-pulse-92Image
Jan 11 6 tweets 2 min read
Fascinating to see how different games development is to e.g. SaaS development (or anything backend or frontend development).

"Job well done" means something very different in both cases. And both dev lifecycle and what "great" means is very different between one another. This reflection comes after talking with best-selling game developer @JonasTyroller and asking if they do unit tests or code reviews.

They do neither.

It's not what makes a smash hit game with a tiny team (that his latest game is!)
Jan 9 4 tweets 1 min read
What happens if a company’s engineering team suddenly becomes a LOT more productive: more story points shipped, self-reported 20-50% productivity increases after using GenAI tools (that the company pays for.) No HC change.

BUT

Revenue stays FLAT despite all this

What then? Hints as to why revenue might stay flat:

Competitors are doing the same and their productivity increased by just as much. And customers don’t care about how you do against your old self; they care about how you do against competition!
Jan 6 5 tweets 2 min read
Imagine having a $300K+ year job at Apple. Then notice Apple matches charity donations up to $10K/year and deciding… you want that additional $10K/yr. So you defraud Apple with a fake charity to funnel the matching contribution back to you.

6 ex-employees did this. Just… wow: Image Full article and details:

What a way to throw away your corporate career, for practically nothing in the grand scheme of things.

I assumed someone smart enough to get into Apple would not be dumb enough to commit such fraud.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-…