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Nov 26 11 tweets 3 min read
Nick Fuentes will play a leading role in Ye’s 2024 presidential campaign. I’ve watched Fuentes closely since he rose to prominence 3 years ago & this could be his biggest break yet- a massive platform to move antisemitism & white nationalism mainstream
After the collapse of the alt-right, Fuentes was able to build a cult following of disaffected Gen Z campus conservatives, & attract the attention & support of hard-right pundits, politicians & operatives because he is an effective messenger politicalresearch.org/2022/01/05/we-…
Fuentes was able to wed his hardline white nationalism & antisemitism with cogent critiques of the conservative establishment, & showed enough discipline (for a time) to craft a groyper message that could appeal to many on the rightward flank of the big-tent MAGA movement
Today, the white Christian nationalism & virulent anti-LGBTQ bigotry that used to get him & others banned from most right-wing spaces has mostly moved mainstream. The only remaining firewall is open, explicit antisemitism. Enter Kanye.
Right now Ye has taken a heavy hit for his antisemitism, but there’s no guarantee that will stick for two years in a conservative movement awash w/self-styled outsiders & victims, when Ye can brand himself as the foremost victim of cancel culture
If there’s anything the Trump presidency taught us it’s to expect the unexpected, & don’t underestimate the potential for a clown show to succeed in clown world. Ye might not be a ‘serious’ presidential contender but his stunts could still be influential
If Ye maintains a drumbeat of public attention, even without meaningful electoral support he can still float ‘dangerous ideas’-- chief among them, open antisemitism– into the conservative conversation that wouldn’t otherwise get a hearing
Fuentes can use Ye as a platform to add open, explicit antisemitism into the Right’s already toxic brew of Soros, ‘groomer’, anti-globalist, cultural Marxist, & other ‘implicit’ antisemitic conspiracy discourse– with the scaffolding of Christian nationalism
Conservative leaders can watch closely, see which interventions gain traction & adopt them for their own use. That has always been the goal of white nationalist metapolitics- using strategic cultural intervention to move the Overton window of acceptable speech & thought
If it lasts #YE24 won’t be a ‘traditional’ presidential campaign. The goal may not even be to get Ye on the ballot. Nick & Milo may see it as the ‘culture jamming’ vehicle for a new alt-right, pushing Trump & others towards more extreme positions- which could be just as dangerous
Nick hopes Ye’s 2024 campaign will help pull the conservative movement further rightwards by outflanking Trump- which is exactly what his groyper movement has been trying to do since 2019 politicalresearch.org/2022/01/05/we-…

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Nov 26
On tonight’s live stream Nick Fuentes announced indefinite hiatus for his nightly America First show, promising an upcoming announcement. May be Comms Director for Ye 2024 campaign, rumored in yesterday’s puff piece on Tim Pool’s website web.archive.org/web/2022112514…
As Fuentes’ show began tonight, Milo posted a video on Telegram of Ye saying ‘welcome to America First, we’ve got a great show for you tonight’- Fuentes’ opening phrase on his nightly show. Another strong symbol of support & seeming coordination
Fuentes tonight- “I loved Trump, I went out there in Stop the Steal ready to die for Donald Trump…but it’s not moving forward”. “A race between Trump & DeSantis isn’t what the country needs.” That’s why he’s stepping back from the show, “to get a little bit more involved”
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Oct 3
Looking at the white nationalist groyper movement- with its large cadre of non-white activists- it became clear to me that non-white conservatives play key metapolitical roles in ‘permitting’ white identity politics for white people who might otherwise be hesitant to ‘go there’
I wrote about this earlier- basically, when non-white conservatives take the lead saying things like 'white lives matter' & 'whites are being replaced', it will help embolden whites to ditch the fear of being called white nationalists & own these positions politicalresearch.org/2022/06/09/cas…
One example of this phenomenon from 2021. Groypers loved bringing Jordan B on their streams to validate their talking points-- that is, until they decided to collectively bully him out of the movement for a perceived drinking problem. Really dark to watch
Read 6 tweets
Oct 3
My latest- last month I attended the 3rd annual National Conservatism conference in Miami. I saw rising leaders of the U.S. Right, determined to use state power to enforce their Christian nationalist vision of minority rule against democracy. Part 1 here- religiondispatches.org/inside-natcon-…
This movement of elite far-right intellectuals, journalists & political operatives is laying the groundwork to finish what Trump started. Now NatCon has battle tanks like the Heritage Foundation, prominent insiders, & GOP leaders like Ron DeSantis on board religiondispatches.org/inside-natcon-…
At NatCon I spoke to the intellectual godfather of the alt-right; a finance bro who pines for 'absolute monarchy'; Gen-Z campus culture war crusaders; & other movement leaders. Stay tuned for part 2, where I unpack their white Christian nationalist vision religiondispatches.org/inside-natcon-…
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Jul 24
A peak into the USA's Gen Z fascist vanguard-🧵on some groypers & other white Christian nationalists at @TPUSA #SAS2022 in Tampa FL this weekend- the student summit of the US's largest campus conservative org, where Trump, MTG & many other MAGA leaders are speaking
There's Carson Wolf, TPUSA leader & sophomore at Texas A&M, who was a diehard Nick Fuentes acolyte before backing away a couple months ago to rebrand his white Christian nationalist activism under American Virtue (more on that below) Image
There's white nationalist antisemitic streamer 'Based Brant', real name Brandt Wiggins, a groyper micro-influencer pictured here w/Fuentes in Vegas last week. Wiggins is active in campus & Young Republican organizing in the New Orleans area. ImageImageImageImage
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Jun 9
.@kathrynajoyce & I name a new group of Gen-Z Christian fascists who also took part in terrorizing the Pride celebration in Dallas on Saturday, alongside John Doyle, Kelly Neidert & groypers-- the New Columbia Movement, a small, deeply antisemitic Christian nationalist network
New Columbia Movement was formed in 2020 by a self-described Iron March (neo-Nazi forum) user, & a III% militiaman. Praising WW2-era fascism in Italy & Spain, they promote Christian nationalism, 'third position' fascism & antisemitism, & are building regional chapters nationwide Image
Last Saturday, while John Doyle, groypers, American Populist Union members & others harassed Pride celebrants face-to-face, NCM members seemed to stay across the street praying the rosary, at least at first. But they're quite possibly even more extreme than Doyle & co Image
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Mar 23
Last week a Turning Point USA high school group attended a retreat connected to the white nationalist America First/groyper movement, where a speaker spread antisemitic conspiracies about "Jewish lobbies". Earlier this year the chapter brought a groyper leader to speak at school
Last weekend 76Fest held its second weekend camping retreat in Lake Pleasant Regional Park outside Phoenix AZ. The retreat is a gathering point for Gen-Z groypers & Christian nationalists. One attendee last year hailed it as "Hitler Youth w/out the Hitler" politicalresearch.org/2021/08/17/hit…
Among the dozen or so attendees were at least two students from the Turning Point USA chapter at The Woodlands High School, a top-rated public school in the predominantly white & wealthy Houston TX suburb of the same name, pictured here with groyper leader Kai Schwemmer Image
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