I'm watching the Ye/Fuentes/Jones interview now and lemmie tell ya, I hope Ben Shapiro is coming to grips with exactly what about 40% of the Republican Party secretly believes
They're nice to your face as long as you're propagandizing for them, Ben, but they'll line you up with the rest of us the second you're not useful
good fucking lord Ye is reading "jokes written by Owen Benjamin about Ben Shapiro" while Alex Jones anxiously laughs and Nick Fuentes genuinely laughs
"I'm, uh, definitely overwhelmed here," says Alex Jones in response to Ye holding up 'Benjamin Net and Yahoo' and saying "I'm going to kill you and steal your children!"
Check out the shit-eating grin on Fuentes as Ye continues to wave 'Net and Yahoo' around while saying "we have to control all the history books, we have to control the banks, and we have to kill people"
Just an incredibly punchable face all around
"And there are good Jews too," says Fuentes, "like Laura Loomer."
oh my god Laura Loomer called in

this is like a fever dream
Alex Jones keeps desperately trying to steer this ship and Ye is not having it

Alex will say I'm really worried about forced injections, 5G and world government, what do you think, and Ye will be like, I don't have all that information, all I know is a Jew froze my accounts
"Planned Parenthood is raising money from white people to help kill black babies-- what kind of freakish crazy-world is that, Ye?"

"Zionists."

Good luck with trying to get him to talk about anything else, Alex
I want to read this prayer that my cousin wrote. It's pretty long. So don't cut me off in the middle of this prayer.
He's been talking for a while and he still hasn't started the prayer.
He is still telling an anecdote about how good the prayer is.
After three minutes of manic rambling, he is starting the prayer.
This isn't a very good prayer, but he's right about it being long
"...in Jesus' name, amen."

"And perfect timing, let's go to break as we start hour number two uncensored with Ye!"
Alex Jones just said something like "we're all crazy here, the world is crazy" and Ye was immediately like "why'd you look at me when you said that" and Alex scrambling to try to prevent a Tim Pool style walkout
Alex asked about the dinner with Trump and Fuentes is just super proud about it

"I was initially told I might not get in, you know, there's a security list, and all these things... but we walked in, we sat down, Trump came out of the dining room."

1/2
"And that was that, he invited Ye to dinner, and I don't know if it was Ye or Trump, but one of them said 'we want to bring Jamar, Karen and Nick into the dining room,' and so we came in and sat down."

2/2
oh my god Alex Jones is SO HAPPY that Ye is letting him talk to Nick, he gets to bring up One World Government and 5G and stuff and Nick knows how to play along and echo the conspiracies without immediately changing the subject to the Jews
whoops, Ye is back in the driver's seat

"our leaders and our politicians have to stop being afraid, and stop being so political, and we have to put Christ first"

I do not think it means what you think it means Ye
"the best thing that can come from this is I'm the President in 2024"
and 'Net and Yahoo' is back to do some sick riffs about making a deal with Jared Kushner at 666 5th Avenue
so I want to pause for a moment and point out that Ye will occasionally turn things to Fuentes to talk about

the relationship here is clearly one of teacher & pupil-- Ye will start in about Netanyahu but then get a little lost and be like "you tell him, Nick, about what he did"
it's pretty clear that Ye had some basic conspiracy knowledge coupled with a lot of personal grievances and Nick Fuentes has stepped in to start providing the "evidence" to prove to Ye that his suspicions are justified

Ye is learning to parrot Fuentes, being shaped by him
this also explains the shit-eating grin whenever Ye goes off, saying out loud and unfiltered the sorts of things Nick doesn't feel like he has the cultural clout to say on a platform this big
so anyway let's get back to Ye saying "this guy we've never heard of, DeSantis"
I thought Ye might have actually found something else to talk about, but after a few moments he pivots to "the Jewish media wants DeSantis over Trump"
Ye is now angrily saying that Netanyahu is speaking badly about Trump, a thing I am pretty comfortable saying didn't happen

it is possible he is talking about his fish net puppet though
"do you know who I am now, Netanyahu? Do you know who I am now, Jared Kushner?"

if you have enough money you can just be mentally ill, I guess
so now Alex is trying to push back about Kushner and he's being so, so careful, punctuating his thoughts every five seconds with "and I don't like Kushner, but"
okay perfect example of what I am talking about--

AJ to Ye: I'm not defending [Kushner], I'm asking isn't it good to have middle east peace?

Ye:

Ye:

Ye: let's ask Nick
Nick, of course, responds by saying Israel killed JFK
Alex cuts off Nick, and Ye cuts off Alex

"We're here as educators. We put ourselves at risk to give you this information."

Yup, teacher/pupil vibes confirmed
"You've been fighting this battle for a long time, Alex, and we have to salute you as a Christian, and as an American. Because you paved the way to make braver soldiers like us today."

Probably not what Alex Jones wanted to hear right now after the Sandy Hook lawsuits.
"We'll go as long as you want, guys," Alex says as they prepare for a break. "You should eat something, Nick and I ate but Ye hasn't eaten."

"I'm fasting."

"Oh, that's right, you're--"

"Because my accounts were frozen by Jewish banks."
"I don't like the word 'evil' next to 'Nazis'," says Ye, as Alex Jones' soul leaves his body
Alex is still trying to go to break.

"This is absolutely lit," he says. "Lit, lit, lit, lit, lit, lit."
so for some reason Ye didn't want Laura Loomer to call into the show, as Alex asked her to. Ye wanted Laura to call him on his personal cell, so now Ye is pressing the phone up to the desk mic and Alex Jones is thoroughly annoyed and passive-aggressively snippy about it
he's so pissy about this

"go ahead Ye, you're hosting the show now"

"go ahead Laura, you're on the air with Ye, go ahead. He wanted to do this over speakerphone, go ahead"
Loomer: I've also been canceled, so I have a unique perspective
Laura Loomer is really trying to hitch her fading star to this wagon but she's got nothing of interest to say

"Really, I was one of the first people to ever experience cancel culture, and uh, I would just say, uh, I sympathize with, uh, anyone who's had their voice silenced"
"Being Jewish never saved me from being canceled," she says, "I am the most banned woman in the world. So I just want to make it clear that, uh, I mean, obviously the ADL is bad"
ooh, Alex tipping his hat towards the fake Jews/Khazarian Mafia/Synagogue of Satan crowd

"there's a criminal group posing as [Israeli Jews], Christ talked about this, that is trying to manipulate and pose as leadership of every group"
good lord Ye is talking but he's blocking his mic with his phone and his gloved hand so the audio is muffled
Ye is now talking about Medici bloodlines
nice accidental screen sharing from the production booth

open tabs include ZeroHedge, Natural News, LifeNews, Crypto, and of course this tweet from a parody PP account that Alex thought was real and ranted about for several minutes at the start of the show
this really is particularly funny because during Alex's rant about it "you'll never believe this tweet, folks" he kept demanding his production team put it up on the screen and they wouldn't and he kept asking why they wouldn't put it up and this is why, Alex

it's fake
the worst supervillain group ever
Alex Jones just said to Laura Loomer, and I quote:

"You're a smart, successful, pro-America Jewish lady, you know, that is an American and lives in Florida"
"What about a pro free speech, pro self-defense, First Amendment / Second Amendment party? How do we fix this, Ye?"

"We fix this with the words of Christ, in the first book of Moses called Genesis"

I have some really bad news for Ye about where Christ's words are in the Bible
Nick jumping in to kinda give away the game, he's feeling confident now

"It's not so much about the Bill of Rights," he says, "it's about Christianity. And Jews do not believe that Christ was the son of God, and they're the only group that hates Jesus."
Ye: Satan was the most powerful angel. and he brought other angels with him when he left Heaven. How many angels did he bring with him, Nick?

Nick: 33% of them, so he brought billions of angels with him
"I still have 400 million," says Ye, "and that shows God loves me."
"After I lost my wife, and I didn't have a say-so over the content that my kids watch, or what they wore, or went to school, or how we went to church, or what they ate, I was frustrated and I let the devil pull me in, next thing you know I'm at New Year's having a threesome"
"Do you have a website you want us to put up?" asks Jones.

"I don't care about the website, I care about Jesus Christ."

"I get it," says Jones, "but they also have to know where to find what you're saying."

"The only place to find it is the Bible. My website is the Bible."
"Okay," says Jones, "well what about you Nick?"

"Cozy dot TV slash Nick," Fuentes says immediately. "And the Bible."
oh lord I'm not sure I'm ready for this next segment
uhhhhhhhhh
impossible to have been prepared for this
"Sex is a legal drug being pushed to destroy humanity."

Oh hey what a coincidence Nick Fuentes hates sex
"I heard about the legend of Alex Jones from this lady called Tracy Romulus," referring to Kim Kardshian's publicist friend.

"She is faking like a Christian, and you know what, much love to Tracy Romulus, who is the type of person I will sue"
"everyone is so focused on Balenciaga, but we're still aborting our kids. We're still fornicating."
Alex is eager to talk about something else: "there are so many other topics, what do you think about Ukraine, or the devaluation of the dollar, or FTX and Bitcoin? There are so many other topics."

Ye's predictable response: "...Nick?"
Fuentes says he hasn't seen too much in the news about Ukraine (???), but "I'm of course pro-Putin. I'm very pro-Russia."

"I am also," Ye cuts in.
Again, Ye and Nick display their weird dynamic.

Ye asks him, "what does Putin say about America's value system?"

The question isn't really a question, of course, but rather a prompt for Nick to relate a story that Ye has clearly heard from him before.
So Nick tells the story of Putin saying America has been conquered by Satanists, everyone grimly agrees, the Ye just starts talking and talks for several minutes

And I'm just thinking about how Ali Alexander has been waiting on hold for a chance to speak for 2 1/2 hours of this
Ye is still rambling.

"[America is] the youngest start-up in history, but we're a world power, because of our military, and mainly because of our navy. And it shows how smart and how powerful Americans are. We invented Apple."
"The engineering minds that made the trams at Disney, that made Lucasfilm, that made Apple, will be brought together to cure America, and then influence the rest of the world."
Now this weird bearded guy is talking. "We're in a difficult realm with what we're doing here today, trying to balance fun and seriousness. Because we are serious people, but we also want to have fun."
"Why won't you let Ye speak? Why won't you let Alex Jones speak?"

Motherfucker they were speaking for three hours, that's why you were on hold all this time
uh oh beardy just called him 'Kanye West'

"it's Ye, sir, I changed it. It's Ye."
"If this interview upsets you, I don't think you have the capacity to enjoy life!"
oh shit Ye is now just talking directly to Kim

"a demonic block comes in, and she's pushed into saying she had sex with Pete Davidson in front of a fireplace. He does not love you, Kim. Disney does not love you. Come home! Come home to Christ!"
Ali Alexander finally gets a chance to talk and calls Nick "Nicholas Fwenchez"
"We're getting off the chessboard," says Ali. "We're going to break the chessboard because it's rigged. Rigged by Satanists. And it is rigged by the Jewish mafia. No one wants to say that. And the Marxists, and the Leftists, and all of these people!"
Alex has encouraged Ye to talk about Ye's belief that Zionists sacrificed his mother (she died of a heart attack following some extensive plastic surgery).

"Michael Jordan's dad was also sacrificed," Ye says, "and didn't something happen with Tiger Woods?"

"Yeah," says Alex.
cancel culture strikes again I guess
Ali Alexander just referred to this panel as "The Avengers"
"If everybody's rushing to get canceled," Ali says, "then they can cancel none of us."

Oh yeah tell that to Ye's suspended Twitter account
and to wrap up the show, Alex Jones is on camera tweeting from Ye's account, which may or may not have contributed to him getting banned

(but it was probably the swastika)
okay this moment is outstanding

Ye insists that Alex "say Jesus Christ, there is power in the name" and Alex, just... doesn't? Like he says Jesus, but then he coughs and moves on
Ali Alexander's turn with Ye's phone, and he wants investigations into mistreatment of January 6th insurrectionists
Alex Jones to Fuentes: you're not a white supremacist. Did you help round up Jews for the Nazis, like George Soros did?

Fuentes: No.

Jones: Well then you're not a white supremacist.

Good news everyone it's impossible to be a white supremacist unless you have a time machine
"To the ADL, I want to say this: there were a lot of good Nazis who were just fighting for their country."
Jones: "So in all seriousness, I know you say you love everyone, but when you say you love Nazis, you mean you love the Hugo Boss uniforms, as a designer, can we just say you like the uniforms but that's about it?"

Ye: "No."

Alex's face:
Ye's "There's a lot of things that I looooooove about Hitler" t-shirt has many people asking questions already answered by his shirt
And again, Fuentes' face as Ye says "there's a lot of things I looooove about Hitler. A looooot of things."
'Net and Yahoo' is back
And we wrap up the segment with one final attempt by Alex Jones to give Ye an out about who is and isn't "Jewish media" and again, Ye is nit interested in an out.

Holy forking shirtballs that three hours consumed six hours of my life.

Good night.
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