@elonmusk@stillgray@jimmy_wales Hey @elonmusk, I am “the other” co-founder of Wikipedia. The ex-founder, I like to say. I actually pushed and led the idea of a wiki encyclopedia in the project’s seminal first year. Read what I wrote about why neutrality is so important here: larrysanger.org/2022/03/why-ne…
@elonmusk@stillgray@jimmy_wales@ks_found We have exciting things in the works. My son (an awesome dev) has built a Chromium plugin that appends encyclosphere search results to Goo and DDG, fetches the articles via WebTorrent, and seeds articles for other users in idle tabs. Truly decentralized.
We’re making a Yacy-powered encyclopedia meta-search engine.
@elonmusk@stillgray@jimmy_wales@ks_found We’re bringing public domain encyclopedias into the encyclosphere, not just as PDFs—we’re doing the work of extracting individual articles and making them into ZWI files anybody can use.
We’ll have millions of articles from dozens (100s?) of encyclopedias within a few months.
@elonmusk@stillgray@jimmy_wales@ks_found Unlike the Wikimedia Foundation, we actually need donations, to build stuff that doesn’t exist yet, tech that liberates and preserves uncensorable knowledge for future generations.
BTW this includes a WordPress plugin that allows people to push articles to the encyclosphere…
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Wikipedia says that Yahweh—you know, the Almighty God, Jehovah, the Lord God of the Bible, God the Father—was "the primary deity and the head of the pantheon of the polytheistic religion of Yahwism."
Yes, really. "Pantheon." "Polytheistic."
Wikipedia is not quoting anyone. It is asserting this in its own voice. The definition has boldly asserted that Yahweh was one of a pantheon since anonymous user "JustTheFacts" made the change on February 13. Before that, too, others had claimed further down in the article that the religion of the Jews was originally polytheistic.
It does not mention the fact that all Christians worship Yahweh.
According to the current version of the neutrality policy, articles should represent "fairly...all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic."
We must conclude that, on the view of Wikipedia, the long, long history of theology about the nature of God (a God who is identified by those theologians *as* Yahweh) does not count as a "reliable source." Or, possibly, such views are not "significant," because they have been displaced by modern liberal scholars who apparently all (?!) agree in their speculation.
This rather neatly illustrates how Wikipedia handles the notion of neutrality today.
Hi @ElonMusk. Wikipedia co-founder here. May I ask you to determine what branches of the U.S. government—if any!—have employees paid to edit, monitor, update, lobby, etc., WIkipedia?
Such operations should be defunded, if any. If there are *none*, we’d like to know. Agree?
For people who don’t know me:
- I left WIkipedia in 2002.
- I have been a critic since 2004.
- The Wikipedia process is almost as opaque to me as it is to you.
- Yes it’s biased, I’ve said so for a long time. See my blog (LarrySanger.org).
- I do Encyclosphere.org.
More evidence that the push for censorship and thought control on Wikipedia went right up to the top.
Appalling. Even ten years ago, a CEO of a free information organization saying this sort of thing in America would have been basically unthinkable. How far we have fallen.
I guess this is common knowledge by now. Yet, for some reason, we pretend it isn’t part of our reality. As horrifying as it is, it is good and necessary that we will be reminded from time to time.
Imagine the amount of specialized knowledge it requires to deal intelligently with all the problems of a 21st century megastate, from foreign policy, to finance, business, and economics, to every aspect of American society.
This is important. 👇
Call them "bureaucrats," but they include the Joint Chiefs, deep CIA, FBI, and NSA insiders, the extremely sophisticated diplomatic corps, the Fed Board, DoE nuclear security officials, etc., etc.
The Deep State, right?
Those people represent a massive and slow-changing center of power. The same goes for the party apparatus of the Republicans and Democrats. Those people are extremely powerful. And I'm not talking about elected officials.
@21WIRE @elonmusk Any rising (or new and already dominant) system will be carefully studied and ruthlessly gamed. Anyone who has watched the development of different social media systems knows this. There are people who make their careers in PR and intelligence on this. @TYonClubhouse
@21WIRE @elonmusk @TYonClubhouse Remember too how closely Twitter worked with spy agencies. Why suppose this has changed? Are we just going to *trust* that, when it matters to the Establishment, they will always allow facts to be endorsed by this system? 🤔
@21WIRE @elonmusk @TYonClubhouse I don’t suppose that *anyone* centrally controls how very large blocs of Community Notes all vote? 🤔