One of the things that’s becoming clear to me from #TwitterFiles2 is there are big parts of the online left that actually can’t discern a difference between abuse & spam vs. political or scientific speech they disagree with. They think the two are the same.
It’s cliche to say some leftists think any disagreement with them is abuse/harassment/harm, but how else to explain this rampant conflation of Twitter’s public anti-spam & abuse policies with its secret policy of suppressing of other kinds of speech?
This is what comes of declaring every utterance of your political or ideological opposition to be a deliberate attack in bad faith. Saying “covid’s mortality = flu mortality” isn’t just wrong (FYI it /is/ wrong IMO), but it’s literally an attack like SPAM or abuse.
This isn’t just culture war clout bait, BTW. I have encountered this in other private venues with prominent lefties, where you think you’re having a discussion about a contentious issue w/ facts & arguments, but they read it as abuse & disinfo & then censor you.
I basically still cannot get over that this is how it is with very prominent people in media & academics. I’m eternally in denial that it’s /really/ like this now (vs. this just being a thing some say to punch the other team), so I’m always surprised to see it in action yet again
Censors will say, “but the stakes are people’s lives! People will DIE if you say that!” Well… y’know, the stakes in politics & public policy debates are /always/ people’s lives. Lives are at stake everywhere in public policy, which is WHY we have rules to protect speech.
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In addition to the conflation of public policies against abuse/spam w/ secret polices against political viewpoints & topics, the other bit of conflation I'm seeing right now is amplification/suppression of tweets vs. of accounts. This is an example of the second type:
Twitter's internal data suggests that righty tweets perform better than lefty tweets -- they seem to get some benefit from the algo. That's a different issue than targeted deboosting of prominent right-wing accounts.
I haven't seen anyone claiming that all right-wing accounts on this site have been deboosted. The claim is that prominent accounts with certain viewpoints on hot-button issues were deboosted, & those often fell on the right side of the spectrum. That can be true alongside...
Ok I finally looked into the discourse around "did they or really 'shadow ban' or are people lying/confused," & my sense is that it's the same as the fight over "were @DrJBhattacharya's covid takes were 'disinfo.'" It's a dispute about who gets to say what words mean.
Twitter has a specific definition of "shadow ban" that doesn't square w/ how the term is often used. Twitter had a definition of "disinfo" that doesn't square w/ what others think. Folx have a definition of "harassment" that to me means "a large account QT'd me to criticize."
All we do anymore is fight over who gets to say what words mean. Same as it ever was.
These are good questions from Eric, & I obviously have an opinion on what the answer is, but I think we do need more examples & evidence. @jack was right -- just release everything in a big archive.
That won't end the debate, but it'll change it for the better. Here's how:
I see in replies from Eric & others that there are varied medical takes from experts that they'll place in different buckets like "ban-worthy disinfo", "dangerous & wrong but permitted," "seemed accurate at time," etc.
Different ppl put different takes in different buckets.
What will happen if we get more data points is the fight will move from "medical experts weren't suppressed for viewpoints" to a complete relitigation of 2020-21's debates on what was & wasn't reasonably considered "dangerous disinfo" vs. legit medical disagreement.
I felt like the Taibbi revelations were important & useful, but not in as much of a smoking-gun way as some others were trying to make them out to be. But this? This is a mushroom cloud IMO.
We were told again and again that these suppression lists didn't exist, even tho we knew they did. Anyone who complained about the suppression was pilloried as a conspiracy theorists by this platform's prominent "disinfo experts." Elon & Bari have just pantsed a lot of people.
Yes, & the results of this suppression, as we now know (via recent stories on the impact on children's wellbeing... cf @AlecMacGillis's feed for many good examples), have been incredibly devastating. For ppl who are always on about "real harm", this is it.
I basically can't believe that BigCos let their employees just publicly rant & ridicule colleagues at competitors on here, & don't have a comms policy about this. It's just wild. Who would want to work in that department if that's the vibe? Gotta be a recruiting liability.
I dunno if ML is the worst or it's just the one I pay the most attention to. I guess these folks have been in a red-hot hiring market for so long that they get to behave however in public & it's eternal job security. Whatever the reason, it's a big problem (& a known one).
The tantrums, bad faith, hysterics, laziness, & silliness around that Meta Galactica launch -- most of it from ppl with sterling institutional affiliations in their bios -- was truly a blackpill. I actually may not even write that part of it -- it's so toxic, why give it oxygen.