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Dec 12 19 tweets 4 min read
#Qldpol Courier-Mail Yougov polling but for the noise about "shock" results there is not much to see here, wait for the important ones

couriermail.com.au/news/queenslan…
I've commented about "enjoys the high life" before. The Courier-Mail clearly loves this question but it's not clear if the voters who say yes to it see it as a negative. Would they commission this question if the incumbent was a man?
"Shock result if election held today" coming in an hour might be more interesting - we will see!
Palaszczuk Satisfied 40 Dissatisfied 41. A completely respectable net -1 but "Queenslanders are now less satisfied with Annastacia Palaszczuk’s performance than they were with her deeply unpopular predecessor Campbell Newman’s on the eve of his disastrous 2015 election loss." ??
To justify this they refer to a 41-52 result in 2015 but that was the Galaxy released 9 Jan, not the "eve" of the election. (And it's not comparing like with like anyway). The *final* Newspoll, the genuine eve of the election, he was 35-58.

#ThisIsNotPollReporting
Ditto Bligh. "Then Labor premier Anna Bligh’s satisfaction rating sat at 43 per cent before the 2012 election wipe-out, with a net result of -9." That was more than a month out from the election, there was a later Galaxy with her at 36-61 (Newspoll 36-58)
#YouGov Crisafulli net +4 (31-27)
Palaszczuk leads as better Premier 39-28 (skews to incumbents, so this is not bad for Crisafulli)
The headline "Less popular than Bligh or Newman" represents a compounding multiple abuse of poll statistics. If you see a print copy of the Courier-Mail with this headline, please recycle it before anyone else is infected. Wear gloves.
And the big shock result is ... oh unchanged 2PP at 50-50 (ALP 34 L-NP 38 Green 13 ON 11 others 4)

For the YouGov poll I agree with their 2PP estimate of 50-50.
Full wording of the YouGov poll here. The poll wording is fine; the Courier-Mail's reporting of it and of past polls is the problem.

commercial.yougov.com/rs/464-VHH-988…
Note eg that in B7 the good and (in one case arguably) bad attributes are rotated which is excellent design.
More of the nonsense "the Palaszczuk Government’s polling is now definitively at its lowest ebb since 2016". Completely false, they were 48% 2PP with a 32% primary in a YouGov poll in June 2020 months before an election they won with an increased majority!
There need to be consequences for supposed newspapers that misreport facts about polling this badly.
(The article adds a qualifier "Other than a brief period after former deputy premier Jackie Trad’s trainwreck of a year in 2019," The brief period was most of a year long!)
(a note for anyone who sees this thread but not the new tweet that I have posted an article about this:

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I am finding still more of this rubbish the more I look. The paper edition has a headline "Six-year low puts LNP in running" over an article that explains that it isn't a six-year low.
"The Premier's acolytes will no doubt publicly dismiss the poll as a media beat-up." (editorial)

The poll is not a media beat-up @couriermail, but your staggeringly sloppy, intellectually dishonest, utterly biased and multiply awful "reporting" of it is.
I do not think Lewis Carroll's seven maids with seven mops sweeping for half a year could clean up the mess the Courier-Mail has made of reporting a single and quite unremarkable poll.

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Dec 13
It's button press day in #VicVotes - not really democracy as such but it can still be fun! I will tweet the provisional results as I get them and this page will have both provisional results and commentary on the distributions once I've analysed them:

kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2022/12/victor…
E Vic as expected

Heath (Lib)
McIntosh (ALP)
Bath (Nat)
Shing (ALP)
Bourman (SFF)
NE Met as expected

Leane (ALP)
Bach (Lib)
Terpstra (ALP)
McGowan (Lib)
Puglielli (GRN)
Read 30 tweets
Dec 12
This is actually not a valid objection by itself. After the four quotas, Labour DLP has the highest remainder. Babet won fair and square in the Senate off a similar vote.
The issues here aren't Somyurek's primary vote, they are:

1. Should the name "Labour DLP" which causes confusion be banned?

2. Did group ticket voting, by causing massive ballot papers, amplify name recognition confusion that inflated Labour DLP's vote?

(cont'd)
3. Perhaps on the primary votes cast Somyurek would still have beaten the left in a voter-directed preference system. It's impossible to say. But Group Ticket Voting is depriving the left of a fair fight because of all the Druery party prefs going to Somyurek.
Read 5 tweets
Dec 11
If the pollster had looked at the preference flow from Ripon 2014 they would not have made that assumption re Bass (if they had the actual Bass primaries in front of them).
Ripon 2014

ALP 35.10
LIB 32.75
NAT 18.33
GRN 7.13
Right micros 6.7

Liberal 2PP was only 50.75%
The 3CP preference flow from NAT to LIB in Ripon 2014 was 69.3%. In Bass 2022 it was 68.8%. In both cases the NAT had the donkey vote which flowed to Labor, and also quite a few of their 3CP votes were not their own. (more so in Bass 2022).

Nothing new in Bass 2022 flow.
Read 6 tweets
Dec 11
In the People's Socialist Republic of Brunswick, of the 55.2% of voters who ranked the Greens ahead of both major parties, 94.6% ranked Labor ahead of the Liberals. (I may have similar figures for other such divisions later.)
Footscray 90.0% 3CP Greens to Labor
Melbourne 89.6.
Read 8 tweets
Dec 10
#VicVotes 2PP pending Narracan

ALP 54.91 - L-NP 45.09

If Labor doesn't contest Narracan that's it, if they do it will almost certainly come down a bit.
The swing on the raw 2PPs is 2.39 to Coalition but that's not comparing like with like as Richmond was not a 2PP seat in 2018 and Narracan may or may not be one in 2022. The swing excluding these two seats is 2.79%.
As noted there appears to be an issue with the 2PP for Pascoe Vale. I think if it is corrected the current 2PP may come down to about 54.85. I'm still working on Lower House writeup but will probably hold off releasing to see if this changes.

Read 6 tweets
Dec 10
W Metro count nearing the end and continuing to trend towards Legalise Cannabis, now 1119 ATLs (0.25%) ahead, and possibly more after BTLs. Hoping we will see advances in the rather slow W Vic count today.
(I was hoping Vic Socialists would get one somewhere just so they could show up in the Parliament and move a motion to proscribe Labour DLP as a terrorist organisation. Looks like it is not to be.)
Finally seeing a bit of movement in W Vic and not that much has been added but Legalise Cannabis have improved their position slightly there as well (they're ahead of the Greens but only about half as much as the calculator says.)
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