Thread by @iproposethis

Parents of boys:

This is one of the most important tweets I'll ever share with you.

This is how bigoted, anti-woman, incel, anti-democracy & other hateful ideology first reaches out kids.

This is called a pain point, and Tate is a master at reaching them. 🧵

https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1601142607794434048

First, Tate is right.

There are ways in which men and boys in our society are suffering and they can often feel invisible.

Depression, anxiety, and the effects of trauma of many forms affect men deeply, and yet they live in a society that asks them to repress emotions.

Capitalism asks them to sacrifice themselves physically and emotionally & promises a dream most can never achieve. To feed a machine that only rewards the wealthy.

Many feel hopeless & then are told to be quiet. To repress these feelings & push them down.

It asks this of all of us, regardless of gender, of course. And it asks this of people of color most, though the poorer you are, the more our society sees you as disposable.

Teen boys are feeling this hopelessness, shown it online. But they're shown the wrong enemy.

They see a rich guy like Tate who has identified for them an easy enemy: liberals, feminists, environmentalists (?), women in general.

Tate shows them a way out of this cycle - wealth.

And he's not wrong.

Under capitalism, wealth IS the only way to escape disposability.

Under our system, being oppressive toward others is the path to power.

Tate is not wrong. Oppress or be oppressed. Consume or be consumed.

He just doesn't realize that he's proving our point. This system is deadly.

Our sons likely won't realize it, either.

Instead of seeing Tate as the actual problem (even Tate doesn't see this) they may see him as the solution.

Tate & this system are the reason men's emotions are forced to be repressed. They are the reason men and boys are suffering silently when they're hurting.

But our kids are young. They see a rich guy with nice cars who tells them how to get a hold of power and they want in.

He identifies the pain points, pushes those buttons, and despite selling actual nonsense (have you heard him in unedited interviews?), he hooks them.

But he's super easy to undermine if you listen with your to him talking, unedited.

This interview is a great start. Do your sons agree that no man can be monogamous? Do they agree that dads shouldn't be fully present in kids' lives?

That women are terrible to travel with and are obsessed with makeup?

Your boys are smart - they'll see through this if given a non-confrontational chance.

But don't be judgey about people who like Tate in front of your kids, just ask them to talk about it.

Remember, this brand of masculinity is popular for a reason: because it DOES reflect success in the USA. It does appear to offer them an escape from the pain and isolation they often feel in adolescence.

Don't undermine the pain, expose the faults in Tate's brand.

Importantly, remind them that success at the expense of others doesn't solve any problems, it just throws another person under the wheels while you climb on top.

To be very clear: Tate is not Incel - but the talking points herein are similar. My suspicion is that incels emerge when men realize Tate's system doesn't work for them.

From August;
jezebel.com/andrew-tate-in…