1.Eugen Vidineac also talks about the "absolutely unusual" situation in which the US Embassy in Bucharest is, in the conditions in which it notified the criminal investigation bodies regarding the kidnapping and seizure of an American citizen by the Tate brothers, but,
2.but, at the same time, it is obliged to provide consular assistance to the two defendants, who have American and British citizenship.
3. The lawyer says that he requested the confrontation of the victims with Andrew and Tristan Tate, victims of whom he has information that they have not been in Romania for some time. #FreeTopG
4. In the interview you will also learn details about the two extrajudicial expert reports, but also about the fact that the Tate brothers, in the lawyer's opinion, played a role to attract followers on social media, which cannot stand as evidence in the prosecution.
5. Lady: You are to defend your clients, the Tate brothers, again on January 10th. Up to this point, have you had access to the file to formulate your defense?
6. Lawyer: Unfortunately, no. I would like to point out that the Tate brothers had their status changed from witnesses to suspects and from suspects to defendants, on the evening of December 29, 2022, the date until which they had the status of witnesses, so that they would not
7. 2022 , the date until which they had the status of witnesses, so that they would not have had the opportunity to study the criminal investigation file. They were detained on the occasion of the notification of the quality of the defendants and
8. and the issuance of the detention order by the DIICOT prosecutor, so that, on December 30, at 2:00 p.m., the deadline for discussing the proposal to issue a preventive arrest warrant, for a period of 30 days. #FreeTopG
9. Lawyer:We had the opportunity, as defenders, to study the criminal investigation file 45 minutes before the start of the hearing,the date or time when we also became aware of the content of the proposal of the report with the proposal of preventive arrest,which had over 100pg.
10.Lady : The first searches in the file took place in April 2022, when several computers, laptops, equipment, everything that was found there was seized. During this period, while they were witnesses, until December 29, 2022, were these assets returned to them?
11. Lawyer: Some of them. On the occasion of the search on April 11, 2022, several electronic devices were seized, to be subject to computer searches. Throughout this period - the reference period is April 11, 2022 - December 29, 2022
12. Lawyer: some of these electronic devices were returned, computer searches were carried out on them. Some have not been returned even to this day. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
13. Lawyer: From my point of view, the period is long enough to not have extracted the data from all the computer systems and not to have done all the computer searches for a period of eight months.
14.Lady: On the accusation of rape: There is no evidence, apart from the victim's statement
Among the accusations that are quite serious & in front of public opinion is the crime of rape.From the info so far,it would be a rape of a female person from Moldova.
Among the accusations that are quite serious & in front of public opinion is the crime of rape.From the info so far,it would be a rape of a female person from Moldova.
17. Lady : In this context, can you tell me, as a defense attorney for the Tate brothers, what evidence exists to support this charge?
18. Lawyer : I will point out from the outset that the criminal prosecution file has not been made available to us to ensure the effective defense of our clients. In this sense, I would point out that, at least from this point of view - I am somehow amazed,
19. Lawyer : together with my colleagues, with the distinguished Mr. lawyer Constantin Ioan Gliga and with my other colleague, who are working on this file and we stay day and night to be able to put together the puzzle of the elements of the charges presented by the prosecutor -
20. Lawyer : -there is, at this time, not a single piece of evidence, other than the victim's statement, that would lead to the idea that any crime of rape was committed.
21. Lawyer : Moreover, from the reasoned conclusion of the judge of rights and liberties of the Bucharest Court it is very clear that such a crime is not supported and that there are no evidentiary elements to support this crime,
22. Lawyer : crime, which is why the judge of rights and liberties does not have the suspicion reasonable that this act could be held responsible for any of the defendants.
23.Lady: We know very well that the judge of rights and freedoms does not "touch" the fund as the judge of the preliminary chamber does. So, in this context, the rights and liberties judge focused on the seriousness of the act, as it is in the letter of the law, to decide the
24.Lady : to decide the arrest of the Tate brothers. Moreover, they also weighed the other two crimes, that of human trafficking and that of an organized criminal group.
25. Lawyer: Allow me, however, to point out the following issue: even if the judge of rights and freedoms, at the time of analyzing the proposal regarding the issuance of a warrant of preventive arrest, is not at the procedural moment in which to analyze the facts, but
26. Lawyer: but the provisions of 204 Code of Procedure Criminal, in conjunction with 223 Code of Criminal Procedure, do not forget that 223 Code of Criminal Procedure refers to reasonable suspicion.
27. Lawyer: However,in order for me,a judge of rights and liberties,to be able to analyze the reasonable suspicion I must analyze the reasons described in detail in the report with the proposal for preventive arrest presented
28. Lawyer : presented by the prosecutor, corroborated with elements from the criminal file, which I have in front at the time I analyze the proposal. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
29. Lawyer :Or, if after a few hours, the judge of rights and liberties, studying the criminal investigation file, in conjunction with those inserted in the report with the proposal for preventive arrest, assesses that there are no elements to create reasonable suspicion of the
30. Lawyer : suspicion of the commission of this facts, it is obvious that the judge himself supports the opinion of the defense: we have no evidence. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
31.Lady: Why extrajudicial expert reports cannot be considered as evidence
Let's go back to the crime of rape. It drew my attention, in the statement of motivation that was published - you have it in full -, the existence of two extrajudicial expert reports, which
Let's go back to the crime of rape. It drew my attention, in the statement of motivation that was published - you have it in full -, the existence of two extrajudicial expert reports, which
32. Lady : which would have been made with reference to the two women - the one who is an American citizen and the one from the Republic of Moldova.
33. Lady : I want to ask you specifically: what about these extrajudicial expert reports, when were they made and when were they drawn up, and do you have any comment on this?
34. Lawyer: It was one of our defenses that we tried to bring to fruition in favor of the defendants, at the time of analyzing the proposal for preventive arrest. We are talking about two reports, extrajudicial evidence. What is extrajudicial evidence?
35. Lawyer: That it was not requested by the prosecutor, that the alleged victim, the alleged injured person presented himself at a psychologist's office, randomly - I know, chosen only according to criteria by that person, by known applicants -
36. Lawyer : - and, following the discussions, the analysis by the professional, this expert report was issued. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
37. Lawyer I don't even know why we call it an expert report,it really isn't a real expert opinion.This - I call it - point of view of a psychologist was issued regarding the so-called traumas
38. Lawyer : traumas that the analyzed persons, the persons subjected to psychological control by the professional in question, would have suffered.
39. Lawyer: What it seems to me and what I don't understand: how could the accusation be based on extrajudicial evidence and how could it be presented to the court, in the proposal for preventive arrest, as evidence #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
40. Lawyer : - what is the basis of this "extrajudicial expertise" proposal , with quotation marks - these two extrajudicial expertises, while, for such serious and reprehensible acts, at the time of the proposal for preventive arrest #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
41. Lawyer: some evidence should be presented that does not show any doubt of impartiality or partiality, not present any doubt regarding the veracity of the evidence, regarding the one who requested it to be approved and administered. #FreeTopG #AndrewTatearrested
42. Lawyer: So, effectively, I consider that the injured persons submitted such a report to the prosecutor, it was submitted to the case file and, with the title of major evidence in the file, it was claimed that the trauma exists and that the aggression, #FreeTopG #Tate
43. Lawyer: in whatever form it may have been expressed, is also proved. Even on the side, from a legal point of view, it does not stand. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate
44.Lady: "Some people made complaints against other people's interests, they went quietly and today we don't know where to take them" #FreeTopG #AndrewTatearrested
45. Lady: I would like you to point out to me, please, if possible: when exactly these expertises were taken, when these assessments were made on those two girls and if they are still in the country at this moment. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate #FreeTateBrothers
46. Lawyer: I stated from the beginning that I will limit myself to presenting, in our discussion, elements of a nature not to endanger the criminal investigation or to prevent in any way the proper conduct of the criminal process, but, in the spirit of equality,
47. Lawyer : but, in the spirit of equality, I answer that I do not we know whether, at this moment, the two are still in the country or not. #FreeTopG #AndrewTate #AndrewTatearrested #FreeTateBrothers
48. Lawyer : It seems that they(the girls) would no longer be in the country,that these psychological expert reports would have been drawn up around the time they left the country- #FreeTopG #AndrewTatearrested
49. Lawyer:- and here there is another uncertainty, it would seem, from the data, that they(the 2 girls) were drawn up after their departure from the country. #AndrewTae #FreeTateBrothers #AndrewTatearrested
50. Lawyer: But, I sit and think why these injured persons are not in the territory of Romania today, why in the criminal investigation,
51. Lawyer: in order to respect the defendant's fundamental rights regarding the proof of innocence and, somehow enjoying the presumption of innocence, they cannot be heard at this time. #FreeTopG #AndrewTatearrested #ElonMusk
52. Check Out my Part 2 Thread about the interview that I translated .
53.Check Out part 3
https://twitter.com/CamilX1/status/1612433231013347330
This is part 2
https://twitter.com/CamilX1/status/1612402130924756995
Info translated from Romanian Tv Broadcast (Antena 3) about the case, for those who did not see yet or can't find tranlation
https://twitter.com/CamilX1/status/1612165563962511361
Other separred thread , about the case, translated , from Antena 3
https://twitter.com/CamilX1/status/1612191571230822401
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