Attending a (packed) panel discussion with former abortion workers Alicia Davis, Mayra Rodriguez, and Sarah Eubanks.
Sarah tears up talking about how she would reassure and talk hesitant women into going through with their abortions.
Mayra said it was easy to work for a Planned Parenthood for years on the birth control side, but once she started working as director of the abortion part of the business, it was the worst 10 months of her life.
Sarah explains they avoided ultrasounds, but if they did one and the fetus was not too far past their 14 week limit, they didn't tell the women, and did the abortion anyway.
All the panel explains they had a certain number of abortions they were expected to make happen, ie quotas. Kelly Lester explains as a receptionist she was asked to call back women who had inquired about abortions and try to schedule them to reach quota.
(Panel is moderated by former clinic worker Kelly Lester.)
Alicia was horrified by fetal parts, asked the provider why she does her work, the provider said "Just think of it as a biology project, like dissecting frogs."
Alicia did ultrasounds, supposed to have a 21 week limit, she would see patients further along and tell the provider, the provider would say "I want to do the ultrasound again." Then the ultrasound would say 21 weeks and they could do the abortion.
Alicia started showing women their ultrasounds, some would say "Can I leave?" "Of course you can leave. You don't have to stay." "I was told I'd have to stay."
Mayra talks about the clinic falsifying patient charts, failing to report statutory rape. Alicia talks about a nurse telling patients they were on a 3-way call with a doctor when no one else was on the call, patients rarely asked. If they did, she hung up the phone.
For years, Mayra thought sidewalk counselors were crazy. She moved into an office with a window facing them & started seeing they were trying to help. Then she started seeing how her supervisors totally ignored the providers being illegal and dangerous. Started changing her mind.
Alicia's mom didn't know she worked for an abortion clinic until she was giving Alicia a ride to work and had to drive past sidewalk counselors. Her mom took a pamphlet from them talking about abortionworker.com and gave it to Alicia.
When covid began, Alicia's clinic's owner wouldn't pay for face masks for staff or patients. Alicia thought "She doesn't care about the patients or workers." She decided to leave for good.
Sarah talks about a young rape victim who didn't want her abortion, provider told Sarah to hold the patient down & Sarah said that was too far. The girl fought to get off the table, speculum still inside her, bleeding. They sent her to the ER and Sarah never heard what happened.
Mayra talks about an 11yo rape victim, youngest patient they every had, who didn't want an abortion, didn't speak English. She was a ward of the state, what she wanted didn't matter to the situation.
For background: Mayra was fired from Planned Parenthood after making numerous complaints to administration about the way the abortion part of the clinic was run. She was later awarded $3M in a wrongful termination lawsuit. azcentral.com/story/news/loc…
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When we talk about the women who emotionally or psychologically struggle with their abortions, the point is not that their struggles are reasons to ban abortion. 1/
We don't think abortion should be outlawed because some people regret abortion. There are plenty of decisions people regret that should still be legal. We think abortion should be outlawed because it kills valuable human beings. 2/
We talk about adverse emotional and psychological struggles for other reasons. First, the women who go through them are silenced, ignored, gaslit or vilified. They struggle to get support. They suffer. That's a problem in itself. 3/
"In fact, [criminalizing abortion] actually has the opposite policy effect...it can increase abortion rates" No surprise there's no citation here. What would even be the mechanism for criminalizing X action ---> increased instances of X action?
Keisha Atkins wrongful death lawsuit resulted in a $1.26M settlement with University of New Mexico and Curtis Boyd's Southwestern Women's Options abortion clinic. abqjournal.com/2497307/unm-cl…
The lawsuit alleged Southwestern Women's Options was negligent and fell below standards of care when treating Aktins, and that University of New Mexico was negligent in referring Atkins to the clinic in the first place. Clinic paid $900k, UNM paid $365k.
Remember this when people claim post-viability abortions of healthy fetuses don't exist because they are "just birth."
Even in the third trimester, they will abort healthy babies carried by healthy mothers. And then they'll falsify health justifications in the paperwork.
Carr signed papers claiming Atkins needed a 6 month abortion to avoid "substantial & irreversible harm" to her physical health. Carr meant only that pregnancy takes physical tolls & "changes your path in life."
When pressed, Carr agreed that her claiming Atkins would have suffered irreversible physical harm was inaccurate.
People change their minds about abortion all the time. Check out our new collection with hundreds of examples of why people switched from being pro-choice to pro-life. secularprolife.org/becoming-pro-l…
Recurring themes include direct experience with pregnancy