Which pro-choice talking points are missing?

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Sitting in on the Quitters panel at the National Pro-Life Summit. Panelists include @TheRealMayraRdz, Kara Germon, Caroline Strzesynski, and Lupita Aguilar. Mayra is the former Planned Parenthood director from Arizona. She blew the whistle on deficiencies at the center and was let go. She subsequently won a lawsuit for wrongful termination of whistle blowers.

Secular Pro-Life was hard at work in 2023! Read our year in review: secularprolife.org/2023/12/secula… In January, we attended the March for Life, where we spoke at the Rehumanize meetup and networked at the National Pro-Life Summit. Later that same month we endorsed the Post-Roe Future vision statement, and Kelsey spoke on a panel at St. Thomas University School of Law.

No, I don't think we should be investigating miscarriages to prove they aren't abortions, for several reasons. 🧵

https://twitter.com/ax_gosser/status/1739630647134585217

First, we don't even call for the investigation of every woman who aborts, much less every woman who miscarries. In general pro-lifers want to ban abortion, but not criminalize women seeking abortions. I touched on some reasons for that in this vid: 2/tiktok.com/@secular_pro_l…

Pro-choice and pro-life people view abortion in cases of fetal anomaly very differently. Here are some of the major points of disagreement (speaking generally, of course there will always be exceptions). 🧵 Pro-choicers often don’t view fetuses as people or children, but as *potential* people. Pro-lifers view fetuses as people and children *right now.*

I want elective abortion outlawed, but in a way that women who are facing medical emergencies can get life-saving care. I share that perspective with maybe every pro-lifer I have ever worked with. And the Kate Cox case leaves me concerned.
secularprolife.org/2023/12/kate-c… If you'd rather listen than read: tiktok.com/@secular_pro_l…

Abortion restrictions don't apply to treatment of missed miscarriage, meaning procedures or medications to remove the remains of a dead embryo or fetus. The laws aren't written ambiguously. For example here is Texas law: 🧵 https://t.co/2byuPUPMrJstatutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/HS/htm/HS…
Sometimes a woman has likely had a missed miscarriage but the doctor will delay offering D&C or mife/miso. People sometimes assume this delay is because of anti-abortion laws, but waiting is not uncommon even in states without restrictions. 2/

Falsehoods pro-choice people repeat to me regularly: a thread. Zygotes and embryos aren't alive.

Attending a (packed) panel discussion with former abortion workers Alicia Davis, Mayra Rodriguez, and Sarah Eubanks. Sarah tears up talking about how she would reassure and talk hesitant women into going through with their abortions.

Here we are at the now-actually-that-cold March for Life! Found @prolifejewess ♥️

When we talk about the women who emotionally or psychologically struggle with their abortions, the point is not that their struggles are reasons to ban abortion. 1/ We don't think abortion should be outlawed because some people regret abortion. There are plenty of decisions people regret that should still be legal. We think abortion should be outlawed because it kills valuable human beings. 2/

Well we agree there are a lot of utter falsities going on. 🧵

https://twitter.com/chitribopinions/status/1599810844220481543

"The first lie is that abortion bans prevent abortion. They do not." Oof. Really bad start. Here's a thread of citations saying otherwise:

https://twitter.com/secularprolife/status/1391844025410355203

Keisha Atkins wrongful death lawsuit resulted in a $1.26M settlement with University of New Mexico and Curtis Boyd's Southwestern Women's Options abortion clinic. abqjournal.com/2497307/unm-cl… The lawsuit alleged Southwestern Women's Options was negligent and fell below standards of care when treating Aktins, and that University of New Mexico was negligent in referring Atkins to the clinic in the first place. Clinic paid $900k, UNM paid $365k.

Even in the third trimester, they will abort healthy babies carried by healthy mothers. And then they'll falsify health justifications in the paperwork.

In this case, it only came to light because the mom died in a botched abortion. secularprolife.org/2022/11/aborti… Carr signed papers claiming Atkins needed a 6 month abortion to avoid "substantial & irreversible harm" to her physical health. Carr meant only that pregnancy takes physical tolls & "changes your path in life."

People change their minds about abortion all the time. Check out our new collection with hundreds of examples of why people switched from being pro-choice to pro-life. secularprolife.org/becoming-pro-l… Recurring themes include direct experience with pregnancy

Stigmatized abortion increases the cultural pressure for women to carry to term. I think both sides recognize that. But less discussed is the fact that destigmatized abortion increases the cultural pressure for women to abort. Do you think it's pro-choice people in general or specific to abortion proponents on Twitter to be so oblivious to this phenomenon?

We tried to respond to the most common pro-choice claims we're hearing right now. Did we miss anything?
secularprolife.org/2022/06/respon… 1. Abortion bans mean women won’t be able to get treatment for ectopic pregnancy.

No abortion laws outlaw treatment of ectopic pregnancy. Quite the opposite, many explicitly exempt treatment of ectopic pregnancy from their definitions of abortion.

"Birth control will be next." No, it won't. 🧵 People focus on the Thomas quote from his concurrence. But no other justices signed on, concurrences aren't binding, and he was objecting to methods by which past Courts came to their rulings (substantive due process), not the results themselves (expanding contraception use). 2/5

Monica speaking (so not our resident attorney, Kelsey). Reading the Dobbs decision now. 🧵with notes. First and foremost: "Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion." Court argues Casey skipped the question of whether the Constitution confers a right to abortion, reaffirming Roe based on precedent alone. So the Court will consider that question now, with Dobbs.

Pro-choice parents teaching their kids to support abortion "might fear that a child’s likely follow-up question will relate to themselves and their parents’ decision to have them," frets Vox.

Gee, ya think?
secularprolife.org/2022/06/pro-ch… Vox also recommends telling children that “many very famous and very powerful men have been able to move on in their careers because they paid for, participated in, or know about a woman who had an abortion,” as if that’s a GOOD thing. A recipe for turning sons into deadbeats.

ACOG parades as a neutral arbiter of medical accuracy, but their language guide is transparently partisan. Can you guess which phrases they don't think we should say anymore? secularprolife.org/2022/03/acog-h… 1. Late-term abortion. ACOG suggests "abortion later in pregnancy." They argue "late-term" implies 41 weeks thru 41 weeks 6 days. I don't think most people saying or hearing "late-term abortion" think it means that, as even PCers used this term regularly until recently.