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Jan 27, 2023 6 tweets 3 min read Read on X
It is a bit hard to believe that any story involving China has been underreported, given China's large role in the global public debate.

But China's transformation into a major auto exporter has been wildly underreported.

(see the hockey stick in exports of finished cars)

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China has gone from a large net importer of finished (mostly from the EU, the Japanese firms never thought they could sell in China w/o producing in China) to a net exporter remarkably quickly ...

(China has been a net exporter of auto parts for some time)

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The US has long been a net importer of autos (mostly from Japan and Korea, but to a degree from Europe too).

And the EU has long been a net exporter of autos.

China has suddenly become a major global competitor

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I suspect that you need a Ph.D in political science -- or perhaps psychology and trade law :) -- to understand why the Commission's main response to a surge in Chinese competition (primarily in EVs) has been to threaten to challenge the US in the WTO ...

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I do understand that the IRA discriminates against European EV exports to the US (there aren't very many yet & the EU EV market is also undersupplied & will absorb any lost sales)

But the big swing in global demand for EU autos right now is coming from China, not the US.

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this thread was inspired both by this Bloomberg story, and the EU's current freakout over the IRA (& its long silence over China's obviously discriminatory policies in the EV sector, which have had a much bigger impact on EU auto exports and employment)

bloomberg.com/news/articles/…

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Jul 11
You can sort of see why folks talk about a China shock -

Very clear swing in Europe's trade balance in autos, engines and batteries with China

The first inflection point isn't the pandemic but rather the summer of 21, the second is in 2024 ...

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The swing in bilateral trade in autos, engines and batteries is almost 0.4 pp of EU GDP on its own

Gavekal argues that Europe's trade has held up well if China is excluded. That's one big exclusion!

The auto, engines and batteries balance ex China has also turned down

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The euro value of EU auto exports globally has also been held up by the increase in auto prices (proxied by the rise in export proceeds per kilo of vehicle exports here)

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Jul 8
Chinese domestic auto sales remained weak in June. EV sales are now right at 12m cars (over the last 12ms). ICE sales have dipped below 10m

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22m in domestic sales and ~ 55m in capacity.

Michael Dunne

"this year China has capacity to build about 55 million cars. Their domestic demand is 25 million. They’ll export another 10 million that leaves 15 to 20 million in excess capacity idle"

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latitudemedia.com/news/catalyst-…
On the ICE side China once had the capacity to make 35-40m cars -- some of that has been repurposed to make EVs or shut ...

production is now 15m, with ~ 5m in exports (more than Germany!)

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Jul 8
Sometimes you just have to admire how strange the world can be -- Korea's May current account surplus was over $38 billion or $450 billion annualized

Absolutely massive number, the trailing 12m sum hasn't yet caught up

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What's more, the massive surplus was offset by massive equity outflows. Primarily foreigners selling Korean equities (presumably to avoid concentration limits ...)

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I never expected this kind of surplus (Korea and Taiwan are on a trajectory where they could post a surplus the size of China's reported surplus, i.e ~ $700b, this year) could be balanced by equally large net equity flows --

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Jul 7
Happy to review the evidence that some of China's exchange rate management results in change to the balance sheet of the state financial sector -- not just changes to the PBOC's formal reserves.

I also have covered this extensively on my blog

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The most important evidence is that fx settlement -- which historically has been an intervention variable (and purchases and sales still correlate with how spot trades inside the band) is no longer showing up on the PBOC's balance sheet (Black and red lines have diverged)

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We can debate where that FX is being warehoused - the PBOC doesn't tell us. But in the past it has been moved to both the SCBs and the policy banks. Swaps moved lots of fx over to the state commercial banks before the GFC, and entrusted loans ($95b of which were converted to equity) funded the policy banks

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Jul 6
Very much agree with @adam_tooze --

The most important thing to know about the international financial system right now is that the dollar's share of a global equity market index is higher than the dollar's share of official fx reserves

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One manifestation of the "profit dollar" and a global financial system built around the hope that US will deliver exceptional returns (not safety or necessarily liquidity): an unusual share of the US external deficit has been funded by return seeking flows

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state asset accumulation hasn't disappeared -- I estimate $600b in flows from reserve managers/ Chinese state banks and global SWFs into dollar assets.

But most of the flow is into institutions that seek return not just safety and liquidity

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Jul 4
A good point from the Economist

"This economic logic is flawed—China is suffering a property bust similar to Japan’s all on its own, without Plaza-like constraints"

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Despite the protests from the Global Times and its echo chamber on this and other sites, I am a bit more optimistic about the possibility that China may agree to allow the CNY to appreciate than the Economist

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economist.com/finance-and-ec…
China won't agree to a "Plaza" deal (any deal will certainly have a different name) but it has allowed its currency to appreciate in the past. The CNY depreciation from 01 to 06 was a big reason for the first China shock & its 07 to 13 appreciation a big part of the solution

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