A thread about the best infantry fighting vehicle: the Swedish CV90.
Nine European countries (๐ธ๐ช๐ณ๐ด๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ณ๐ฑ๐ช๐ช๐จ๐ญ๐จ๐ฟ๐ธ๐ฐ) have bought the CV90 and others are now eyeing it as their future IFV (๐บ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ง๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐น).
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The reason NATO's big four military powers are eyeing/assessing/trialing the CV90 is that it is a mature design with every imaginable variant already existing.
The CV90 isn't the best armored IFV - the best armored is the German KF41 Lynx in this photo. And the CV90 isn't 2/n
the cheapest IFV - that would be the South Korean Redback in this photo.
The CV90 is, due to its many users, the most versatile armored vehicle in production now. Similar to the Leopard 2 tank and the F-16 fighter many users means that there is constant development and 3/n
improvement of the base system, with new and better variants entering service with one of the users every few years.
Let's have a look at some of the CV90 variants, prototypes, and many turret variants. The basic vehicle is the Swedish CV9040, which was introduced in 1994. 4/n
Sweden improved its basic model three times (Versions A, B, C) and is currently upgrading 262 of its A, B, C versions to the D1/D2 and E standard.
The photo shows a D1 (former A) that just came off the production line. This Swedish upgrade isn't changing the armor or gun, or 5/n
the tracks or gun stabilization; this upgrade is about bringing the electronics and optics up to the CV90 Mk IV standard, which is the fourth generation of the non-Swedish CV90s.
Yes, there were two parallel development streams for the CV90 - the Swedish one and the export 6/n
one. The British Warrior never had an upgrade, the Italian Dardo never had an upgrade, while the CV90 was improved every few years either by Sweden or @BAESHagglunds for an export customer:
โข CV90 ๐ธ๐ช
โข CV90 Mk I ๐ณ๐ด
โข CV90 Mk II ๐ซ๐ฎ๐จ๐ญ
โข CV90 Mk III ๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฑ๐ช๐ช
โข CV90 Mk IV ๐จ๐ฟ๐ธ๐ฐ 7/n
Every time a country showed interest in the CV90 an improved variant was developed. As each new variant was based on a model already in service the development was less risky and could be done much faster than a complete new development.
This meant that no customer had to 8/n
wait for years while trials and testing had to be undertaken, and yet all customers received CV90 that worked as promised from the start.
And not only that customers can get every imaginable type of CV90 based armored vehicle. By my last count at least 17 different types of 9/n
CV90 armored vehicles besides the many IFV variants exist.
I.e. do you want a light tank with a 105mm cannon? or with a 120mm canon? with manned turret? or an unmanned turret? All of these already exist as prototypes. 10/n
If you want a CV90 based armored recovery vehicle to tow damaged CV90 IFVs off the battlefield you can get the Swedish Bรคrgningsbandvagn 90 (Bgbv 90), which has been upgraded to D standard, or the brand new Driftstรถdspansarbandvagn 90D (Spbv 90D) based on the CV90 Mk IV. 11/n
Need a V90 based Command Vehicle?
Well, you're in luck and can choose between a Swedish D version with a fake gun, a MK III Dutch version with a gun, and a brand new MK IIIb Norwegian version.
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CV90 based Forward Artillery Observer? Of course you can have that. Self-propelled Anti-aircraft Gun (SPAAG) with a radar - of course there is a version you can order.
But you don't need a dedicated SPAAG - if your CV90 is armed with a 35mm Bushmaster III or 40mm Bofors 13/n
w/70Bc autocannon, you can use airburst ammo to shoot down drones and helicopters.
Airburst ammo is also excellent to clean infantry in trenches (AFAIK Ukraine will get CV90 with this capability). Speaking of guns - no IFV has a powerful cannon as the Swedish CV90. 14/n
The Swedish w/70Bb or w/70B guns with their 40mm APFSDS rounds can penetrate all russian armored vehicles except the frontal armor of upgraded tanks... but even a T-80 is vulnerable if a Swedish CV90 can get fire at it from the side. 15/n
And the CV90 will not have any problems with mud or snow - Sweden designed it specifically for used during the Scandinavian winter, which is even colder than winters in Ukraine. And with Mk IV you get a more powerful engine and Composite Rubber Tracks, which means the CV90 16/n
is now even more agile.
Speaking of Mk IV: if 40mm is too small, now you can have a 50mm autocannon that will pierce russian tanks even on the front and shoot down drones up to 3 km in the air.
If you want anti-tank guided missiles - you can have Spike LR or Akeron MP. 17/n
You need a CV90 Armored Engineer Vehicle? Of course there is one based on Mk IIIb and one based on Mk IV. Reconnaissance variant with extendable sensor mast?
Norway just received such a vehicle. And also a 81mm mortar carrier. Speaking of mortar carriers - 18/n
you can have that as classic mortar carrier with open roof and manual operation, or in a manual dual mortar turret version (Granatkastarpansarbandvagn 90), or as a dual mortar semi-automatic AMOS version, or with the semi-automatic NEMO mortar. 19/n
All these existing variants and versions, and the proven flexibility of the CV90 design make the CV90 the best IFV on the market.
Only version that I miss are self-propelled 155mm artillery and armored ambulance, but for the later 20/n
there is a actually a variant ready to go, if a country should want it: That variant could also serve as Armored personnel carrier, or electronic warfare vehicle, or armored bridge layer. 21/n
Naturally the Mk IV comes with an integrated active protection system (Elbit's Iron Fist) and the newest optics, electronics, and networking capabilities.
All this, and the now almost 30 years of user experience make the CV90 the best IFV a nation can buy. 22/n
As said earlier the KF41 Lynx is even better armored than the CV90 Mk IV, but it exists only as IFV.
Tracked Boxer might even be more flexible than the CV90 Mk IV... but tracked Boxer only exists as prototype and Powerpoints. 23/n
So if your army needs a renewal of its tracked armored fleet - you can risk a new development and end up with a costly, unworkable disaster that threatens your army's existence as a credible fighting force (Ajax). 24/n
Or you get the best of all the IFVs currently in production: the CV90 Mk IV, which comes with all the variants you ever dreamed off.
It's just the best there is.
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Italy's 61ยบ Stormo received enough of the new T-345A basic jet trainers to begin pilot training this June.
As everyone knows, I am all for growing European militaries and adding capabilities... but why does EVERYTHING have to be with US engines?
Europe must stop buying US
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made kit, components and weapon systems.
The Italian T-345A (left) and the Czech L-39 Skyfox (right) are the only two basic jet trainers currently in production in Europe... and both use a Williams International FJ44-4M turbofan made in Ogden, Utah.
Yes, there are more 2/n
American components than just the engines in both, but as aircraft are designed around their engines Europe needs to stop buying American and start building engines again.
Both planes the T-345A and L-39 Skyfox replace used European engines: the Italian MB-339 (pic) 3/n
To my American followers: it is time to plan for exile.
Doesn't mean you will have to leave, but based on experiences of Jews fleeing Nazi Germany after 1933 here are a few things to make escape and exile easier:
1) get an up to date passport (the regime might no issue you
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one in the future thus stranding you) 2) if possible get a passport from another nation. It doesn't matter which; just get a passport the regime can't cancel. 3) open bank accounts in a foreign nation (I can't stress this enough! The regime will freeze your American accounts,
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which will prevent you i.e. from booking a flight; and you will arrive in another nation penniless if you do not shift your funds into a non-American bank in a non-American nation ASAP) 4) plan for the regime putting you on a no-fly list. How can you get to the border and to
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This is the wing, which trains the fighter pilots of ๐ง๐ชBelgium, ๐ฉ๐ฐ Denmark, ๐ฉ๐ช Germany, the ๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands, ๐ณ๐ด Norway and ๐ท๐ด Romania.
But all those people are wearing ๐บ๐ธ US Air Force uniforms... well, of course - the aforementioned countries' fighter pilots are trained by 1/8
the US Air Force's 80th Flying Training Wing based at Sheppard Air Force Base in Texas, which is home to the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training.
Canada, Greece, Italy (pic), Portugal, Spain, Tรผrkiye and the United Kingdom also have the right to train pilots at Sheppard, but 2/n
those nations also retain a national training pipeline, that Trump/Musk can't shut down.
Germany even moved basic training with Grob 120TP trainers to Phoenix Goodyear Airport in Arizona.
Yes, it makes sense to bundle the advanced and jet training of European air forces, 3/n
I am sorry ๐ธ๐ช Sweden, but I must talk about the Blekinge-class submarine procurement disaster.
Because it exemplifies what happens, when a nation guts its defence budget AND nonetheless demands from its defence industry to deliver cutting edge systems.
This never works!
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Sweden built its first submarine HM Hajen (pic) in 1904.
Since then Sweden continuously built submarines at Kockums' shipyard in Malmรถ and at the state owned Karlskrona shipyard.
Between December 1954 and December 1988 (34 years) the two yards launched 24 newly built and 2/n
6 upgraded submarines (The latter, the Jaktubรฅtarna boats, were extensively reconstructed WWII era coastal submarines).
From 1960 to 1979 Swedish defence spending was always above 3%... in 1980 the decline began, but when the last Vรคstergรถtland-class submarine was launched 3/n
Those of us, who have been at Euromaidan, know that Ukrainians are fearless, fight for freedom, and never surrender.
Even if the US betrays them, they will fight on.
If you ever met a Ukrainian, you would know that.
Trump etc. have no clue, about these people. 1/9
Ukrainians stood their ground and defend their capital against these russian stormtroopers for months... in the deepest winter.
Ukrainians, like the English, Scottish, Welsh and North Irish during the Blitz 1940, never surrender. They will continue the fight even if alone. 2/9
I lived in Ukraine from 2009 to 2015... the Ukrainian people want to be European and free.
They already fought two revolutions in this century for freedom and Europe.
Now Ukrainians fight bloodiest war in 80 years to keep Europe safe from tyranny and destruction. 3/9