A few hours ago I did a thread about tank ammo.
There were some questions and suggestions in the comments. Therefore I will do now a shortish "PS" thread to my earlier tank thread 🧵:
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If you have not yet read my earlier thread - I suggest you do so now, before continuing with this thread.
Yes, besides HESH, HEAT, APFSDS other tank rounds exist: like smoke, High Explosive Anti-Personnel, High Explosive Obstacle Breaching, Cannister, etc.
Cannister (shown in the video) turns the tank into a giant shotgun that shreds infantry that came too close to the tank. 3/n
Most of these rounds are being replaced by Advanced Multi Purpose rounds, which combine HEAT, Obstacle Breaching, and Anti-Personnel capabilities in one programmable round.
With the American M1147 AMP in this video being the most efficient and deadly of these new rounds. 4/n
Modern tank rounds consist of a propellant filled cartridge with a central primer flash tube that ignites the propellant. The projectile sits on top of the cartridge (with the fins of some projectiles embedded in the propellant).
It's in principle a giant bullet. 5/n
Leopard 1 and compatible 105mm rifled guns use a metal cartridge that is automatically ejected after firing.
This is the same cartridge/projectile combination as in NATO 105mm howitzers like the L119 or M119. 6/n
120mm smoothbore rounds use a combustible cartridge case made from cellulose, nitrocellulose and resins.
After firing only the metal base case with the primer flash tube remains and is ejected from the gun.
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Due to this and better propellants 120mm rounds are similar in weight to 105mm rounds... but with much more punch.
In this video of a M1A2 Abrams firing a HEAT training round you can see the base case being ejected at the end. 8/n
The British Army's 120mm rifled guns use a different system: first projectile and charge are loaded. Once the breech is closed a primer (called Vent Tube) is loaded automatically into a chamber within the breach block. The Vent Tube then ignites the charge. 9/n
The round shape on tank barrels is the bore evacuator, which just by its design (without any mechanical parts) removes fumes and gasses from the tank barrel after firing.
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The only Western tank without a bore evacuator is the French Leclerc. The Leclerc uses an autoloader and overpressure in the autoloader compartment to force gases and fumes out of the barrel. 11/n
There are tons of other aspects of tank design that are amazing, like gun stabilization, thermal sleeve of the barrel, tank optics and thermal cameras, the fire control systems, etc. etc.
But I will do Anti-tank guided missiles and mortar threads next
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Gripen fans continue to spam my mention with claims how fantastic Sweden's Bas 90 and Gripen combination is... and that it would work for Canada's North too...
Ok, let's quickly compare Canada's three northern territories (Yukon, Northwest, Nunavut) and Sweden... ... 1/6
Land area:
🇸🇪 450,295 km2 (173,860 sq mi)
🇨🇦 terr.: 3,593,589 km2 (173,860 sq mi)
The land area of just the three territories (without Canada's 10 provinces) is already 8 times bigger than all of Sweden...
(In total Canada's land area is 9,984,670 km2
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(3,855,100 sq mi) or 22 times Sweden).
Population:
🇸🇪 10.61 million
🇨🇦 terr.: 0.13 million
Sweden's population is 81.6 times bigger than that of the three territories... and if you look at population density:
🇸🇪 23,6/km2
🇨🇦 terr.: 0,013/km2
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Saab loooves to tout the claim that the Gripen can "operate from dispersed air bases".
They do that, because they know no one of you knows what it means. And every time I see someone regurgite "dispersed air bases" (or "road runways" or "short runways") I know I am dealing
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with someone, who knows absolutely nothing about the topic.
So allow me to take you on a deep dive into what "operating from dispersed air bases" actually means.
Let's start with Såtenäs Air Base in Southern Sweden - the most important Swedish air base. 2/n
When the Viggen entered service, Såtenäs received it first.
When the Gripen entered service, Såtenäs received it first.
When the Gripen E entered service, Såtenäs received it first.
In the 1950s Sweden developed the Bas 60 system, which would have dispersed the Swedish 3/n
The 11th Airborne Division is the least likely to be used to invade #Greenland.
The division's deputy commander is Canadian. He is responsible for Operations. The 11th would have to arrest part of their own officers, before being able to plan a Greenland invasion.
Also
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there are just 8 C-17 Globemaster aircraft at Elmendorf Air Force Base. The USAF would need to fly a dozen more up to Alaska, which of course Canada would notice. Then to reach Greenland the C-17 would have to cross Canada's North, which NORAD's Canadian officers would report
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to the Canadian and Danish governments.
It is much more likely the US will inform allies that a brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg will fly to the Middle East, which means the air route will take them right over Greenland. And at Fort Bragg you also have the
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This is a typical clown tweet by someone, who knows nothing about WWII.
3 years before D-Day, the Soviets & nazis were in a love-feast, while the US had not entered the war; & when it did it had to cross an ocean full of nazi submarines to stage troops & materiel for D-Day.
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And unlike the warmongering Soviets, which in June 1941 fielded 304 divisions, the US Army fielded just 37 divisions when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor (+ two Marine Corps divisions).
Before any D-Day the US Army had to start forming new divisions (38 in 1942 and 17 in 1943) &
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then ship those divisions across the Atlantic, which was teeming with German subs, while the Soviets just used trains to bring troops and materiel to the front (& if the Soviet had had to ship troops across an ocean, they would have just accepted that a third of their troops
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The @RoyalAirForce - once the strongest air force in Western Europe... but now...
7 Eurofighter Typhoon squadrons are expected to fulfill the tasks, for which 35 years ago the RAF fielded 40 squadrons (31 active & 4 reserve + 5 shadow squadrons, which would have been formed
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from the personnel & fighters of the RAF's operational conversion units).
At the end of the Cold War these 40 squadrons were assigned to 4 commands, each with a specific mission & enough aircraft to fulfill their mission.
No. 1 Group was tasked with striking Soviet forces
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in Northern Germany, including with WE.177 tactical nukes.
The Group fielded 8 active, 4 reserve and 2 shadow squadrons, which flew Tornado GR1, Jaguar GR1A, and Harrier GR5 fighters (the reserve squadrons flew Hawk T1A). The group also included the RAF's 3 aerial
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Since there are still people claiming the Gripen is the "ideal fighter for Canada"... here are the refueling stops the Gripen C/D needed to get from Ronneby in Sweden to Eielson Air Base in Alaska.
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at every Canadian airfield to refuel...
For the curious ones:
On 13 July 2006 five Gripen C and two Gripen D left
their base in Ronneby Sweden. They refueled at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland, then flew to NAS Keflavik in Iceland, where they refueled and stayed overnight.
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On 14 July the Gripens flew to Sondre Stromfjord in Greenland for another refueling, then proceeded to RCAF Iqualuit in Canada for refueling and the night.
On 15 July the Gripens flew to Churchill, refuelled and then flew to RCAF Cold Lake, where they spent 16 July to rest.
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