People argue that we should provide military assistance to Ukraine for selfish reasons, because it's in the West's interest. In this essay, I go over the main arguments in favor of that view and conclude they are not convincing 🧵 philippelemoine.substack.com/p/the-case-aga…
Here is the table of contents.
The most popular argument for the view that it's in the West's interest to provide military assistance to Kiev is probably that, unless we help Ukraine win, Russia will attack NATO's eastern flank next, but I argue that it's a preposterous claim.
People argue that, since most people didn't believe Putin would attack Ukraine, we can't dismiss that Russia might attack the Baltics next if we didn't help Ukraine don't understand that Ukraine is and always was a special case.
The mere fact that such a view can be publicly entertained without fear of ridicule illustrates the pathologies of the public debate on that issue.
I argue that people make this argument because they misunderstand the events that led to the war. There is no Russian grand strategy, the invasion is just the result of one improvisation after another.
Even if this had been Putin's plan, he still wouldn't have been in a position to execute it even if we hadn't provided military assistance to Ukraine, because although people talk as if subjugating a country of 44 million were easy it's far from being true.
Paradoxically, despite being the most anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian people in the West, the people who make that argument both overestimate the Russians and underestimate the Ukrainians.
Another commonly heard argument is that, if the West refrains from providing military assistance to Ukraine because we're afraid of Russia's nuclear arsenal, it will lead to proliferation because non-nuclear states will take notice of that and seek to acquire weapons.
However, as I argue in this section, this argument is unconvincing because it overlooks the complexities of nuclear decision-making.
In fact, not only is the argument that providing military assistance to Ukraine will make proliferation more likely bad, but in fact the opposite is true because the non-proliferation regime crucially rests on cooperation with Russia that such a policy puts at risk.
Another popular argument is that providing military assistance to Ukraine is a way to get rid of a rival on the cheap, but this argument is also confused, starting with the fact that again Russia was never in a position to challenge to the US hegemony in the first place.
Moreover, while the direct cost of military assistance to Ukraine is small (at least for now, but Russia hasn't been defeated yet and there is no saying how long it will take if we even do), it has significant indirect costs that the people who make that argument overlook.
First, it's quickly emptying inventories and putting military production under a lot of strain, which despite plans to expand capacities may get worse and reduce the West's military preparedness for years if the war drags on.
Providing military assistance to Ukraine also has significant indirect economic costs, especially for Europe, which will also get worse as the war continues.
Moreover, while providing military assistance to Ukraine will probably reduce Russia's *ability* to harm the West's interests, this will be more than compensated by the fact that it will increase its *willingness* to do so.
Indeed, Russia may be too weak to challenge the West's hegemony, but it has considerable spoiling power and people who think it's already as bad as it can be may soon find out how wrong they are. As I already noted, this policy will even damage the non-proliferation regime.
Providing military assistance to Ukraine will also push Russia even closer to China, which unlike Russia actually could challenge the US hegemony, if that's something you care about.
Finally, while a nuclear escalation is fortunately very unlikely, it's still a risk as long as we provide military assistance to Ukraine and, other things being equal, the West clearly has an interest not to take that risk.
Another very common argument is that, by providing military assistance to Ukraine, the West is deterring future wars of aggression, but this argument is deeply flawed and overlooks complexities in decision-making on matters of war and peace.
First, the number of states that might be deterred by this police is very low, because at any given time few states have the means and inclination to invade their neighbors and even less have reasons to infer much from the West's policy on Ukraine.
It could be argued that, if that is true, it's largely because of the norm against wars of territorial aggrandizement and that Western military assistance to Ukraine is necessary to sustain that norm, but I argue that this claim is ad hoc and not very plausible.
Moreover, even if the West hadn't provided military assistance to Ukraine, it's not as if Russia would have benefited from the invasion, because again it would still have been a disaster for Russia.
Another difference with the case of criminal punishment in the domestic sphere is that, whereas criminals ordinarily can't inflict significant harm to the state that punishes them, the same can't be said of states and this complicates the cost-benefit calculus for both sides.
Finally, while providing military assistance to Ukraine arguably makes other potential aggressors less likely to go through with their plans *other things being equal*, offering this kind of support to Ukraine makes other things *not* equal.
The last argument I examine is the argument that not providing military assistance to Ukraine would undermine NATO's and in particular the US credibility. It's not clear what the argument is exactly, but I go over several possible interpretations and find none of them convincing.
The first interpretation I consider is that, had the West not provided military assistance to Ukraine, it would have undermined the credibility of NATO's article 5 in the eyes of potential aggressors, but I argue that it's not persuasive.
Another interpretation of the credibility argument is that it would have undermine the credibility of NATO's article 5, not in the eyes of would-be aggressors, but in the eyes of member states, but I argue that it's not persuasive either.
Yet another interpretation is that not providing military assistance to Ukraine would have undermined the credibility of NATO's out-of-area interventions, but I argue that it's no more convincing.
The last interpretation of the argument I consider is the idea that, unless the US and its allies provide military assistance to Ukraine, the credibility of the US as the "world's policeman" will be critically undermined.
But this version of the credibility argument is also unconvincing. First, as the previous interpretation, it effectively functions as a self-fulfilling prophecy since the NATO's and the US credibility is only on the line because we provide military assistance in the first place.
But more importantly, the idea that if Russia wins now that the US and its allies have committed themselves to Ukraine's defense it will change how countries interact with the US is not convincing, because it wouldn't affect the objective factors underlying the US hegemony.
Hawks love to bring up credibility because it allows them to defend virtually any policy without having to make a real argument. This has always been a recipe for the sunk cost fallacy and I argue that this case is no different.
In the conclusion, I argue that committing to Ukraine's defense is an ill-conceived policy, that was taken not because it was in our interest but because we acted without carefully deliberating and started down a slippery slope without even noticing.
The claim that it’s in the West’s interest to provide military assistance to Ukraine is just a noble lie supporters of that policy came up with to convince people, starting with themselves, that it was the right thing to do. It would be preferable if they admitted this.
Finally, I argue that even if you disagree with my conclusions, you ask yourself how sure you can be that you are right, given the toxic intellectual environment that supporters of Western military assistance to Ukraine have created.
Anyway, thanks if you have read this far and please read the whole thing, there is more that I didn't cover in this thread and some of your questions/objections may be answered in the essay.
P. S. I've added a note at the end on a point that several people brought up, because it seemed worth saying a word about it. Other than that, I feel like I have said my piece and that it's best to let things stand, because otherwise it will never end.
The document in which the Romanian Constitutional Court justifies its decision to bar Georgescu, who already won the first round of the presidential election in December and was running ahead of everyone else in recent polls by a wide margin, from running for president is one of the most insane things I have ever read.
The text is very confused, the translation probably doesn't help, but the argument the Court seems to make is that, in deciding whether someone can run for president, it has to check whether that person would threaten the country's constitutional framework if he were elected and it claims that Georgescu will not defend democracy.
The only argument it gives to justify that claim is that the very same Court previously annulled the first round of the presidential election that Georgescu had won, which means that he didn't respect the electoral procedure and in turn this ipso facto demonstrates that he violates the obligation to defend democracy 🙃
But the December ruling to which it refers, which annulled the first round of the election, mostly didn't talk about Georgescu's alleged violations of electoral legislation to justify the decision, but instead made ridiculous arguments based on what supposedly happened on social media during the campaign, such as the claim that "equality of opportunity" was not ensured on social media due to the "exploitation" of algorithm.
(Of course, even putting aside that such a claim is so vague as to be meaningless, this argument is preposterous since, by the same logic, one could justify cancelling literally every election in history because "equality of opportunity" has never existed anywhere in the traditional media either. Do people think, for instance, that the traditional media treat every candidate equally well? There is no principled difference here.)
The only accusation made specifically against Georgescu in the December ruling is that he violated the electoral legislation by failing to disclose payments his campaign had allegedly made on social media, but the only evidence the Court cited in support of that claim was a report declassified by the Minister of Internal Affairs after the first round of the election, which claimed that Georgescu had benefited from a social media campaign that wasn't properly marked as electoral advertisement.
However, although the document in question did note that Georgescu had not declared any spending on electoral campaigning (which is obviously suspicious), at no point did it claim that his campaign had paid for those social media posts and in fact evidence has since then surfaced that the social media campaign in question was paid for by the liberal party!
(Let's put aside, because that's not truly relevant, the fact that even if Georgescu's campaign had in fact been behind that social media campaign, the idea that a $1 million dollar campaign on TikTok can swing millions of votes is nothing short of ridiculous. If this were true, the guys behind Georgescu's online operation should quit their current job, whether it's in the Kremlin or somewhere else, to create their own political advertisement company because they're apparently the most effective people in the field anywhere in the world by a very wide margin.)
So the Constitutional Court barred from running for president the candidate who, according to the polls, was bound to win in a landslide, by arguing that its own decision to annul the first round of the election last December, justified by insane arguments about the general context in which the election took place and an accusation against that candidate for which it produced no evidence, showed that he could not be counted on to defend democracy 🤯
I'm sorry but this is nothing short of a legal coup and a denial of democracy. Anyone who defends that decision while claiming to support democracy and the rule of law is a clown. This is the same kind of arguments that dictatorships around the world use to prevent "dangerous" candidates from running and the fact that so many people who constantly pose as defenders of democracy are currently applauding the Court's decision speaks volumes about how deep their commitment to democracy actually runs.
SOURCES
- The latest decision by the Constitutional Court, barring Georgescu from running in the new presidential election: g4media.ro/document-candi… (thanks to @marginletter for telling me about this)
- The document on the social media campaign that was declassified by the Minister of Internal Affairs: s.iw.ro/gateway/g/Zmls…
(I used Google Translate to read all those documents.)
@marginletter I had forgotten to include an article on the report that linked the social media campaign that allegedly boosted Georgescu, again keep in mind that the claims people make about the effects it had are preposterous, to the liberal party, but here it is. politico.eu/article/invest…
Okay, let me reply to this thread, because I think it's actually very helpful to explain what is wrong with the argument in the paper I was criticizing 🧵
The point @lymanstoneky makes is that, since the longitudinal analysis in the paper only looks at the 2018-2023 period and immigrant flows during that period were dominated by low-crime propensity groups, it's plausible that immigration during that period didn't increase crime.
I obviously agree with that, but that's not a defense of the paper! In fact, not only is that not a defense of the paper, but that's actually one of the reasons why the argument made by the authors is so disingenuous, as even Lyman hints at toward the end of his thread.
Not only does it show no such thing, but it couldn't possibly show that, because that's obviously false. Immigration has a large impact on crime in Germany and this paper is just another example of politically-motivated academic malpractice. Let's take it apart 🧵
The key finding in the paper is that, when you control for the time-invariant characteristics of districts and year-specific effects that affect all district equally, a change in the proportion of foreigners in a district isn't associated with a change in the crime rate.
The authors interpret that as showing that, though foreigners are suspected of crimes at a higher rate than Germans, that’s because they live in deprived areas that turn them into criminals in the same way they do for Germans, so the crime rate is unaffected when they move there.
This reminds me of the Reykjavik summit, which was supposed to be about making relatively small progress on arms control, but where Reagan and Gorbachev came very close to agreeing to the total elimination of nuclear weapons, to the horror of their respective advisers. Putin and Xi are no Gorbachev though, so I don't think it will play out in the same way 😅
The Gorbachev/Reagan dynamic at Reykjavik is fascinating, because they were both sincerely convinced that nuclear weapons were a moral abomination, but their advisers and allies clearly didn't share that conviction and freaked out upon realizing that they were serious about it.
What prevented a deal in the end was Reagan's almost religious commitment to the SDI. When Reagan assured Gorbachev that the US would share the system with the Soviet Union, Gorbachev assumed that he was fucking with him, but he was actually dead serious about it!
In other news, it looks like the chickens are finally coming home to roost for Macron, as Le Pen seems to have decided to pull the plug on the government. Not only do we have no plan B to form another government, but we also don't know how we're going to vote a budget 🤷♂️
As I've been saying since last June, I'm really not sure that Macron will be able to finish his term. I know that everyone thinks I'm insane when I say that, although that's probably less true now than a few months ago, but I really think people underestimate the probability.
In general, when I say that, people reply that nobody can legally compel Macron to resign. Well, that's true enough, but nobody could legally compel Biden to withdraw and it still happened 🤷♂️ There are scenarios in which the pressure will prove very hard to withstand.
Okay, you're going to say that I say that because I'm a reactionary who hate protesters in general (which again is kind of true though besides the point here), but pro-Palestine protesters have to be some of the most retarded people on earth.
It's true that the deck is stacked against the pro-Palestine side of this thing, but at the end of the day it's impossible to avoid the conclusion that, if they weren't so fucking stupid and unhinged, things would go a lot better for them.
And please don't be telling me that at least they don't stay silent about what Israel is doing in Gaza. These morons obviously couldn't care less about that or they wouldn't be doing this shit. They're just a bunch of petulant and retarded children who only care about themselves.