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@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 1/11」My point was subtle. I didn't think most would "get it."

It was an analogy.

As Andrew mentioned, the chart you shared proves vaccination saves lives. Most anti-vaxers can't understand that, due to innumeracy. But that's not why I'm sure most anti-vaxers are innumerate.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 2/11」Fear of mRNA vaccines is foolish. Calling mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" is foolish, too. But the main reason I'm confident that most anti-vaxers are too innumerate to understand Andrew's point is that most AMERICANS are too innumerate to understand it
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@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 3/11」Do you recognize the analogy?

Vaccination greatly reduces risk of death from Covid-19, yet most elderly who die of Covid-19 were vaccinated. Do you understand why those 2 facts are perfectly consistent?

If you do, then you should also understand Andrew's point.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 4/11」The reason most elderly people who died of Covid-19 were vaccinated is that 94% of Americans ≥65yo are vaccinated. So, if only 60% of those Americans ≥65yo who died from Covid-19 were vaccinated, it is strong evidence that vaccination saves lives.

Do you understand that?

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 5/11」As Andrew pointed out, you should have recognized that your chart shows that vaccination saves lives. Mathematical competency ("numeracy") would have enabled you to recognize that.

Now, moving on to that "gene therapy" nonsense…

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 6/11」Anti-vaxers often claim mRNA Covid-19 vaccines from Pfizer & Moderna are "gene therapy," which makes dangerous changes to the human genome. That's a HUGE LIE, which has killed many people.

mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy, and are not even very similar to gene therapy.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 7/11」Not everything that involves genetic material is "gene therapy."

Gene therapies deliver HUMAN genetic material, typically by the use of viral vectors, to cell nuclei.

mRNA Covid-19 vaccines are very different. They don't use viral vectors, and don't deliver HUMAN genes.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 8/11」Viruses inject viral genetic material into cells, programming the cells to create copies of the viruses. That changes the genetic material in the cells which they infect, but it doesn't make viruses "gene therapy." That's just how viruses work.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 9/11」Traditional live-virus vaccines are more like gene therapies than are mRNA vaccines, because both traditional live-virus vaccines and viral vector gene therapies contain viruses. mRNA vaccines don't.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 10/11」Gene therapies transfer human genes, but the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines instead contain virus-like genetic material.

@PeterMayfitz @provaxtexan @Mr_Magoo5 @SoiferErica @mcfunny @CoralBlob @Top_Muppetries @dave_odo @xyzfredsmith @SkepticalMutant @LiamKav @TonyBaduy @crabb_vicki @hauxton @_mamadeb @Monstercoyliar @onairpharmacy @FUDyou2 @volpiranyas @katieorourke78 @Sc_ott @Mchael21592783M @MutzUk @FionnMacCool @TakethatCt @greenboat @carlsmythe @markoftec @ghoppe @doritmi @jarbot15 @FrankDElia7 @DoctorFeelg00de @i_am_joli_anne @JonInTn1 @Alaskacryptogi1 @tenebra99 @AGoldsmithEsq @swedishchf @clownworld_bobo @docstardust @JustPlaying2Win @DCGreenZone1 @EstesPga @gobantwo2 11/11」If you want to know what gene therapy is, here are a couple of resources where you can learn about it:

• fda.gov/vaccines-blood…

• medlineplus.gov/genetics/under…

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