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OK - Now Carroll v. Trump trial, Day 2 - Inner City Press is live tweeting the trial - now complaint about Trump post on Truth Social about Ms. Bergdorf Goodman being a "scam" innercitypress.com/sdnybrief7trum… More on @SubstackInc here matthewrussellleeicp.substack.com/p/in-carroll-v… Thread below

Before anonymous jury brought in, complaint about Trump's post.
Judge Kaplan, to Tacopina: Your client is speaking to his "public," about things he is not supposed to speak about.
Tacopina: Ms. Kaplan's office leaked that two mock juries found liability

Tacopina: I'm not saying Ms. Kaplan did it. Someone from that wall did it.
Judge Kaplan: Could have been someone off the street who was paid to give an opinion.
Tacopina: I've read the article.
Judge Kaplan: I have too. There were 37 people...

Tacopina: I will speak to my client about the post today, I assure you. But they have done it too. There was a protective order that was not signed or executed. I will ask my client not to comment on the case. I don't. [He went out Pearl Street door yesterday]

Judge Kaplan: Your client may be tampering with a new source of potential liability. And I think you know what I mean.
[Contempt of court?]
Judge Kaplan: Anything else?
Carroll's lawyer (sounding happy) Nothing, your Honor

First witness: Cheryl L. Beall.
Carroll's lawyer: What is your current job?
Beall: VP of a cosmetics company. Before that, Prada, Louis Vuitton...
Carroll's lawyer: Let's focus on the spring of 1996. Where were you?
Beall: Bergdorf Goodman on 57th and 5th Avenue

Carroll's lawyer: What was your job?
Beall: Manager of the women's store.
Carroll's lawyer: How busy would it get on Thursday evening?
Beall: Busy if we had an event. Otherwise, rather quiet.

Note: Here is the Truth Social post that Carroll's lawyer read to Judge Kaplan, which he said may open Trump up to a "new source of potential liability"...

Not (yet) mentioned by Carroll's lawyers, a second Truth Social post this morning...

[Back to the courtroom]
Carroll's lawyer: On this chart, what is FR?
Beall: The fitting rooms, dressing rooms.
Carroll's lawyer: Where would the swimwear area be?
Beall: It moved. It was a swing shop. It was seasonal.

Carroll's lawyer: Were the fitting rooms sometimes open?
Beall: Yes. We wished they were. But some sales associates tied them open with ribbons.
Carroll's lawyer: Could two people fit inside?
Beall: Yes. People shop together.

Carroll's lawyer: Did famous people shop there then?
Beall: One of my favorites was Pierce Brosnan --
Carroll's lawyer: How were famous people treated?
Beall: They were given privacy. We didn't like hearing, I just saw this famous football guy with a 2d person

Carroll's lawyer: Had you seen Donald Trump?
Beall: Yes, I saw him on 57th Street.
Carroll's lawyer: Did you ever hear of Donald Trump being in Bergdorf's?
Trump's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!
Judge Kaplan: Not necessarily.

Carroll's lawyer: I'll rephrase. If Donald Trump came in, would you be alerted?
Beall: Not necessarily. If he was president, sure, there'd be Secret Service.
Carroll's lawyer: No further questions.

Judge Kaplan: Cross examination.
Trump's lawyer: Given the proximity from the fitting room to the main area, if someone screamed, would they be heard?
Beall: If they screamed, yes.
Trump's lawyer: And if someone's head-
Judge Kaplan: If a tree falls in the forest

Trump's lawyer: I got my answer, Your Honor.
Judge Kaplan: I know you did. But you know where I'm coming from.
Trump's lawyer: Did you maintain the footage from the security cameras?
Beall: Sure.
Trump's lawyer: Could a person get it?
Beall: I assume so.

Trump's lawyer: Did you have guards?
Beall: Security executives might take a pass through the store.
Trump's lawyer: If a person had a security concern they could be approached?
Judge Kaplan: Were they in uniform?
Beall: At the front desk.
Trump's lawyer: Thanks

Trump's lawyer: So you were contacted by the plaintiff's lawyers, to testify?
Beall: Yes.
Trump's lawyer: But you refused the defense team?
Beall: These investigators came unannounced. I told them I was at my place of business.

Trump's lawyer: Were you called yesterday & you hung up?
Beall: Yes. At 8:30 am.
No further questions.
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OK - we're back, with E. Jean Carroll on the stand - and a photograph of her being shown to the jury.
Counsel: When did you graduate?
Carroll: 1967, after I returned a library book.
Counsel: What did you want to do?
Carroll: Be a writer. First I worked for P&G

Counsel: Did you get married after graduation?
Carroll: 3 or 4 years later. To Steve. He became editor of Outdoor Life. We went to Montana together. We split up in 1980 or 1981 after a successful companionship and marriage

Counsel: Then where did you move?
Carroll: To Manhattan. I wrote for magazines: Esquire, Playboy, Rolling Stone, then Vanity Fair and New York and the Atlantic.
Counsel: For Elle?
Carroll: It was the thinking woman's fashion magazine. I started Ask E. Jean

Counsel: Did you have a TV show?
Carroll: Yes, it was the idea of Roger Ailes. We went on to create Fox News.
Counsel: Was he your boss at the time?
Carroll: Yes. He had his own show, Straight Forward, at 8 pm. He interviewed celebrities.

Counsel: Did you see Mr. Ailes' set?
Carroll: Yes. He had two sets, one in Fort Lee and one in the city.
Counsel: May I approach the witness?
Judge Kaplan: Yes.
Counsel: What is this?
Carroll: A CD I watched then wrote the word "Roger" on.

Counsel: Did you get remarried?
Carroll: What time period?
Counsel: 1980s.
Carroll: Yes, John Johnson of ABC, then CBS.
Counsel: What year did you get married?
Carroll: 1987 or 1988. Then for 3 years, ending in a divorce - but we continued to see each other

Counsel: Are you involved in websites?
Carroll: Yes, Great Boyfriends dot com. With my sister Candy, to help people find The One. We started in 2001. We sold it for $600,000. I don't use that site anymore. Also, a dating site called Talk-a-Bye (sp)

Carroll: That website uses AI to help people find a good partner. I get 200 letters a month, how to find someone to make them happy.
Carroll: Let's turn to the reason you're here, what happened with Donald Trump. When did you meet him?
Carroll: 1987, at SNL or ABC

Counsel: What's in this photo?
Carroll: Donald Trump, Ivana, John Johnson & me.
[It's PX 12, also labeled "Confidental CARROLL 030211]
Carroll: The conversation was about 5 minutes. He was a raconteur.
Counsel: Did you find him attractive?
Carroll: Yes. Personable

Counsel: When do you believe Donald Trump assaulted you?
Carroll: Going by what I was wearing, tights but no coat, I'd say Spring. Ms. Birnbach has written a story about Mr. Trump and Mar-a-Lago, a bomb shell --
Trump's lawyer: Objection!

Counsel: Ms. Carroll, we're not going to get into the substance of the article. How did it help you remember when?
Carroll: Mr. Tacopina said I referred to 1995 or 1996 --
Counsel: Just, how did the article help you remember?
Carroll: Lisa Birnbach wrote it...

Carroll: She went down to Mar-a-Lago in February 1996. I believe she would not have done down there if she'd known what Trump had done to me --
Tapopina: Objection.
Judge Kaplan: I'm going to allow it.

Carroll: I believe it was a Thursday.
Counsel: You've never before said that, right?
Carroll: I've always thought it. I'm not 100% certain. But I think so.
Counsel: Are you sure?
Carroll: I feel sure. But not 100%.

Carroll: I lived in a cottage in Nyack. I'd feed the dogs then write the TV show. I'd drive to Fort Lee, into hair and make up. Live at 4 pm...
At Bergdorf, Donald Trump asked me to help him buy a gift. I loved it - it was a great NY moment. I asked, For how old?

Carroll: Donald Trump asked, How old are you? I said 52. And he said, You are soo oooold. He was being funny.
Counsel: What floor were you on?
Carroll: The first floor
Counsel: Did anyone recognize you?
Carroll: There was a shopper. She was tiny, staring up at him

Carroll: He was petting a fur hat and he said, I know, lingerie.
Counsel: You mean, underwear?
Carroll: Yes. We went up to the sixth floor.
Counsel: Was there anything discomforting, that Mr. Trump had proposed lingerie?
Carroll: No. I thought it was a great story

Carroll: He was talking about buying Bergdorf.
Counsel: Who else did you see?
Carroll: I wasn't looking.
Counsel: How did you move?
Carroll: May I stand up?
Counsel: Your Honor, may she?
Judge Kaplan: Yes.

Carroll: There was a blue body suit. He said, Go put this on. It was see-through. They used to be called teddies.
Counsel: Anyone else there?
Carroll: I didn't see anyone. Bergdorf's is not busy in the evening
Counsel: Have you written before you were surprised?

Carroll: Now I find it surprising.
Counsel: Did you put it on?
Carroll: No. I said, You put it on. It's your color. He said, You're in shape, go put it on.
Counsel: Why in the world would you think he would?
Carroll: He was having a good time, and so was I.

Carroll: The door was open and I thought, OK, I saw it as an SNL sketch.
Counsel: Were you flirting with Donald Trump?
Carroll: Yes. The whole time
Counsel: What happened next?
Carroll: He shut the door and shoved me up against the wall. I was confused. I laughed

Carroll: I pushed him back. He thrust me back against the wall again.
Counsel: Were you still laughing?
Carroll: Yes. I didn't want to make a scene, or make him angry. I know that sounds strange.
Counsel: What did he do?
Carroll: Held me against the wall.

Carroll: He pulled down my tights. I didn't want anything else to happen.
Counsel: Did you say, No?
Carroll: No. I do not recall saying it. I may have said it.
Counsel: Did you scream?
Carroll: I'm not a screamer. I'm a fighter.

Counsel: Would someone nearby have heard?
Carroll: Yes. My head hitting. And me laughing. I was 5'9'' then, I've leveled since. I had on four inch heels. I weighed 120 then. He weighed about one hundred more pounds.

Carroll: His fingers went into my v*gina. It was extremely painful. It was a horrible feeling. He put his hand inside me and curled his finger. As I sit here today, I can still feel it. [Pause]. Then he inserted his p*nis.
Counsel: What did you do?
Carroll: I...

Counsel: We'll need a moment.
Carroll: I wonder WHY I WALKED IN THERE, to get in that situation... I'm proud to say I got out of there.
Counsel: Could you see what Mr. Trump was doing with his hand?
Carroll: I couldn't see. Only feel the pain.

Counsel: Were you wearing underwear?
Carroll: No. To me, tights are underwear. I wouldn't wear two pairs of underwear.
Counsel: Do you know if he ejaculated?
Carroll: I don't think so.
Counsel: Then what?
Carroll: I got out of the store as quickly as I could

Counsel: How did you get out of the store?
Carroll: I walked out. I took the escalator.
Counsel: Were you running? Walking?
Carroll: I'm guessing I was walking swiftly.
Counsel: Did Mr. Trump come after you?
Carroll: I was never sure if he was behind me. I rushed

Counsel: How do you feel about your decision to go up to that dressing room?
Carroll: It was very stupid. It changed... I know people have been through a lot worse than this. But it left me unable to ever have a romantic life again.

Counsel: What did you do?
Carroll: I called my friend Lisa Birnbach. She wrote "The Preppy Handbook." I thought, if she thinks it's funny, I didn't do a stupid thing.
Counsel: Why would Lisa Birnbach think it was funny?
Carroll: I hadn't processed it. Adrenaline

Counsel: Do you now believe any of it was funny?
Carroll: No, it was tragic... I told Lisa, You're not going to believe what just happened. He pulled down my tights. She said, E. Jean, I don't think that's funny. I must have still been laughing.

Carroll: Lisa asked me, Did he insert his p*nis? I said yes and she said, He raped you. You should go to the police. I didn't go. I couldn't
Counsel: Why not?
Carroll: I was ashamed. I thought it was my fault. I was flirting with him, laughing, having a great time

Counsel: Then what did you do, that evening?
Carroll: Walked to the garage and drove home.
Counsel: That night, any physical signs of abuse?
Carroll: My head hurt. My v*gina felt pain.
Counsel: Did you seek medical attention?
Carroll: No.

Counsel: What did you do with the dress?
Carroll: I kept it. It was my best dress. I thought I might wear it again. I couldn't believe that it happened to me.

Counsel: Did you keep a journal at this time?
Carroll: When I was younger, I wrote about my emotions. After 40, about hiking and my dog. I'm very superstitious - I don't write bad things done. If I don't write it down, I don't think about it

Counsel: What did you do the next day?
Carroll: I went to work. And I thought I knew best. I didn't see a therapist. But I told Carol Martin. She was an anchorwoman at ABC. I needed a hug. I told her, I had a run-in with Donald Trump at Bergdorf's.

Carroll: I spoke to Carol at her house.
Counsel: Who else was there?
Carroll: Her dog Cisco. Carol is open hearted. Her concern was, Do not go to the police. He has 200 lawyers, he'll bury you. I agreed with her. And we agreed never to talk about it.

Carroll: When something is painful, and it causes pain to talk about it, we never talked about it again.
Counsel: Anyone else, you spoke to?
Carroll: Lisa again, many years later.

Counsel: Why did you stay silent so long?
Carroll: I would never report it. Roger Ailes would have fired me. And I was afraid of Donald Trump, that he would retaliate. Woman who are raped are looked at as soiled goods. People say, She should have screamed

Counsel: Did you tell your family?
Carroll: No. We are very upbeat. We do not discuss anything that would cause people to feel badly.
Counsel: Is there a lunch break window?
Judge Kaplan: Jurors, 2 o'clock.
Andy: Jurors, please some this way.
[Jurors leave]

Judge Kaplan: OK be seated everybody. Where were we?
Counsel: I plan to ask Ms. Carroll about the harm that occurred to her from this assault. We appreciate the defense can ask about other possible causes. But there are two area I want to ask about --

Carroll's counsel: We would not object if the defense wanted to ask Ms. Carroll about another instance of sexual assault that occurred to Ms. Carroll, that involved a camp counselor.
Tacopina: Please read that back. We were...

2d Trump lawyer, Chad Seigel: There were 2 other sexual assaults. One by a dentist then one that involved Les Moonves.
Judge Kaplan: When was the dentist?
Seigel: She said it in a deposition. I have it right here. Page 174. I'll read it-
Judge Kaplan: Please don't

Judge Kaplan (looking at deposition) What line should I look at, to remind me of my most recent root canal?
Seigel: 8 though 20.
Silence.
Judge Kaplan: In a nutshell, insofar as the dentist episode is concerned, why is it relevant? An alternate explanation?

Seigel: Yes.
Judge Kaplan: You're going to say it wasn't what happened with Mr. Trump, but rather the dentist?
Seigel: We say nothing happened with Mr. Trump.
Judge Kaplan: Whatever happened with Mr. Trump.
Seigel: Her M.O. is accusation without time frame

Seigel: Ms. Carroll says Les Moonves graphically sexually assaulted her on an elevator.
Judge Kaplan: Page? Line?
Seigel: 162 of the transcript, lines 12 through 17. Defendant's exhibit AA.
Judge Kaplan: Give me a minute. If you're talking I can't read.

Carroll's lawyer Michael Ferrara cites a 9th Circuit case.
Seigel: The rule only applies when the witness had not raised the issue herself and opened the door, which has clearly happened here. She has written about this.

Judge Kaplan: Give me a moment, fellas. What does the 9th Circuit say, Mr. Ferrara, that requires the exclusion of the Moonves incident?
Ferrara: The rule excludes evidence of other sexual assaults -

E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Ferrara: We think of it as doors. Some must remain closed, other will be opened --
Judge Kaplan: Except at Bergdorf's.
Ferrara: Well played.

Trump's lawyer Seigel: They want to allow questions about the dentist, when she was a child, because it evokes sympathy, but not Moonves --
Judge Kaplan: Rape of a child is bad, but rape of a woman is not? I wouldn't want to hang my argument on that.

Judge Kaplan: I just read a scathing letter in this case the other day. You are carping. I've had enough of it.
Seigel: They've opened the door. We're permitted to rebut it.
Judge Kaplan: You say an incident with Moonves in 1997 also limited romance
Seigel: Or sex

Ferrara: The reason we came up with the camp counselor is that --
Judge Kaplan: Forget the camp counselor. Let's stick with what we're talking about. She says, X happened and I have consequences. They say, there was also Y.
Ferrara: We say Rule 412 precludes it.

Judge Kaplan: Counselor, if your expert going to attribute harm to Moonves?
Trump's lawyer Seigel: He intends to.
Judge Kaplan: Is it in his report?
Seigel: Yes, generally.
Judge Kaplan: I'll think about it over lunch.

Carroll's lawyer Ferrara: Ms. Carroll has said her second husband John Johnson was violent with her. Not sexually. But we think the reason they fought must be excluded, under Rule 403.
Tacopina: It's relevant. He got violent because she called him an ape

Judge Kaplan: The underlying reason is not coming in, it is a subject on which the unfair prejudicial effect outrageously outweighs any probative value, to a mixed race jury in New York, it is outrageous in my opinion.
Tacopina: I've got your ruling.

Judge Kaplan: I know what you're up to.
Tacopina: I'm trying to defend the case. To not hear the reason for Johnson's violence, it's not fair.
Judge Kaplan: You're entitled to your opinion, but it's not mine.
[Stands up to leave]
All rise!
Thread to continue at 2

OK, they're back. Before jury allowed in, Tacopina says he will ask about the "group of men she claims have mistreated her throughout her life."
Carroll's counsel: We'll take it question by question.
Jury entering!

Carroll's counsel: Do you remember the disk I showed you?
Carroll: Yes.
Counsel: We offer DX 112.
It's a video of Roger Ailes interviewing Donald Trump, as grand marshal of a military parade.
Counsel: Who is Roger Ailes?
Carroll: He started Fox News.

Counsel: Why do you think you were then unable to form a romantic relationship?
Carroll: In short, because I was raped by Donald Trump.
Counsel: Why did it have that effect?
Carroll: I flirted with him, and he raped me. So going forward, I didn't look at men

Carroll's counsel: I'm sorry to ask this, but have you had sex since?
Carroll: No. I have a public persona, then a private self that can't admit out loud [voice breaks] that there's been any suffering.
Counsel: May I approach?
Tissues.
Carroll: Thank you

Carroll: I project myself as invincible, I tell my correspondents, You can do it. The private E. Jean is not like that.
Counsel: Prior to the assault, had there been extended times you didn't date?
Carroll: No, I loved living in New York, going out...

Counsel: How old were you?
Carroll: 52.
Counsel: If there any other reason you haven't had sex since?
Carroll: No. 52 is a great age.
Counsel: Have you given interviews? Did you say there may have been another reason --
Tacopina: Specifics, please

Counsel: Do you recall saying that age may have played a role in you not finding a romantic connection?
Carroll: May I see it?
Counsel: Let me ask you a different way. Do you recall saying age may have played a factor?
Carroll: Yes.

Counsel: Did you use dating apps?
Carroll: I mostly viewed then as competition, since I owned two dating apps. But I tried, too, I admit.
Counsel: Did you find anyone?
Carroll: No. My friends at Esquire set me up with the perfect man. But I made it not work

Carroll: I have lost out on one of the glorious experiences of any human being - being in love with another human being, cuddling and eating popcorn, cooking dinner, walking the dog. I feel I should be able to overcome it

Counsel: With your 2d husband John Johson, was their violence?
Carroll: Yes. He strangled me three times. But it was not sexual. I never called the police. I never sued.

Counsel: How do you get along with him now?
Carroll: We get along. We continued to have sex after our divorce.
Counsel: Anyone after that?
Carroll: William Goldman, it was lovely.
Counsel: Ever sexual abuse by a camp counselor?
Carroll: Yes. I was 12.

Carroll: The waterfront director, Cam, he would take me to the dining room. He would rub my leg in front of 100 campers. I was ashamed.
Counsel: Why did you feel ashamed?
Tacopina: Objection!
Judge Kaplan: Overruled.
Carroll: It was public

Counsel: Are there specific things that trigger these feelings?
Carroll: I haven't figured it out. I had to pull over to the side of the road one night after seeing my colleagues from the 1990s. I don't like to talk about it.

Counsel: How did Donald Trump's presidential aspiration effect your triggers?
Carroll: He was everywhere. I had to get strong. They became less.
Counsel: Have you seen a therapist since this case began?
Carroll: Yes. Doctor Leslie Lebowitz.

Counsel: What did you think when Donald Trump ran for president?
Carroll: I thought it was terrible. I think he is evil.
Counsel: Why?
Carroll: He raped me.
Counsel: What about his politics?
Carroll: I don't even know what they are.

Counsel: Why didn't you speak up when he ran?
Carroll: My mother was dying in Indiana. And I notice that as more women came out and accused him, his polling numbers went up.
Counsel: Are you involved in politics?
Carroll: I am a registered Democrat.

Counsel: Have you ever donated to a candidate?
Carroll: $1000 to President Obama.
Counsel: Who have you voted for?
Carroll: Obama. Clinton. Biden.
Counsel: What is your view of Donald Trump?
Carroll: He's vile.

Counsel: Let me show you PX 120. What is it?
Carroll: The most hideous men in NYC walking tour. In 2019.
[Tacopina says something]
Judge Kaplan: Were you addressing me?
Tacopina: We're trying to resolve something without getting Your Honor involved.

[Photo without text is now put up]
Tacopina: No objection, your Honor
Counsel: What was that tour?
Carroll: They do Most Famous Gangsters walking tour, so I thought, Why not hideous men? In six blocks of 5th Avenue, we visited where well known men mistreated women

Counsel: Was this man part of your tour?
Carroll: No, he was in front of Trump Tower charging $5 a photo. I gave him $5. He's working hard.
Counsel: How many tours did you do?
Carroll: Six.
Counsel: How much money did you make?
Carroll (laughs) I didn't charge.

Counsel: Are you suing to settle a political score?
Carroll: A personal score. He called me a liar.
Judge Kaplan: Let's take a break here. 15 minutes.
[Inner City Press heading out to other cases (in Chastain NFT, charts of income. Mag court?) Thread resumes 3:18

We're back.
Before jury comes back in Judge Kaplan rules: Litigation funding, it is not coming in. Let me say, it went to 1 or 2 answers in the depositions. I conclude there is nothing in there as to credibility. If there were, it would be prejudicial. It's closed

Carroll's lawyer: At 1:58 pm Trump Jr. tweeted that a billionaire is funding this lawsuit. In light of Mr. Trump's son's tweet, after the Truth Social, we are wondering about what remedy. It's high appropriate, I mean, inappropriate.
Judge: Mr. Tacopina -

Judge Kaplan: Remedies may go beyond those of this court. I suggest you speak to your client.
Tacopina: As to Eric Trump, I will address with any court. The tweet was before your ruling of a few minutes ago. Reid Hoffman... Eric Trump didn't do anything wrong. twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

Judge Kaplan: There are relevant US statutes here.... Bring the jury in.
Jury entering!
Counsel: What did you say to Lisa Birnbach when Trump won?
Carroll: I said, Can you believe it? She said-
Counsel: Did you know what she was thinking?
Carroll: I thought I did

Carroll: People said, I should write a book. I'd thought many times of writing a book about what woman think about men. The Harvey Weinstein story broke. It was 2017.
Counsel: How do you feel about men?
Carroll: I like 'em.

Carroll: I decided to include Donald Trump in my book.
Counsel: Were you paid an advance for your book?
Carroll: Yes. $70,000.
Counsel: Any money since then?
Carroll: No.
Counsel: How did you market it?
Carroll: Donald Trump was mentioned...

Carroll: New York Magazine ran an excerpt. It hit the Internet 3 days before the hard copy magazine. June 21, 2019.
Counsel: Why not publish it in Elle?
Carroll: They would not have published it. They would not publish their advice columnist admitting a mistake

Counsel: Were you paid by New York Magazine?
Carroll: No, they paid St. Martins, like $7500.
Counsel: Did you send it to Lisa Birnbach and Carol Martin?
Carroll: Yes, as an email attachment. Neither had a problem with it. They are both writers.
x

Counsel: Were you three interviewed that June?
Carroll: Yes.
Counsel: Did it change your recollection of the events?
Carroll: No, but I hadn't known Lisa was feeding her children when she got my call.

Counsel: After it was published, what was the response?
Carroll: I thought Donald Trump would denied, because he denies everything.
Tacopina: Objection.
Judge: Sustained.
Counsel: Let me show you his tweet, I never met her. You see it?
Carroll: Yes

Counsel: How about this interview in The Hill, June 24, 2019, where he says "She's not my type." What do you understand that to mean?
Carroll: That I'm too ugly to attack, to rape. I thought he was going to say it was consensual. Then I started getting threats

Carroll: The letters I got as E. Jean, they turned negative. And the threats?
Counsel: What was your reaction?
Carroll: I deleted them.
Counsel: Did you also get support?
Carroll: Yes. From all over. But the vileness about my ugliness, it swamped it out.

Carroll (voice breaking) Getting my day in court, it is everything to me. So I am happy (sobs).
Counsel: Shall we take a moment?
Carroll: I'll get myself together. This is my day in court. I'm not going to cry and waste everyone's time... I lost 8 million readers.

Carroll: I've still got 19,000 readers on Substack. But Elle Magazine fired me since I accused Donald Trump.
Counsel: Were you able to obtain a new job?
Carroll: No. I have a Substack. For Elle once a month I got $5000. Now I churn out 3 a week for the same income

Counsel: Have you heard of Jessica Leeds?
Carroll: Yes. I interviewed her about Donald Trump assaulting her on a place. The press tends to use words like grope. I --
Tacopina: Objection.
Judge Kaplan: To what? We'll break here, the jurors can go home. But first...

Judge Kaplan: Very important you don't read anything about this case or go online.
[Jury leaves]
Tacopina: She said, Other women had come forward --
Carroll's lawyer: She's covered a lot today. We aren't trying to import other allegations.
Judge Kaplan: Remind me

Judge Kaplan: OK, see you tomorrow.
[Judge leaves]
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