Thread by @RoisinMichaux

Welcome to @genspect's pretty ground-breaking gathering of experts, activists and some of the transgender cult's most well-known casualties. Not far from here, @wpath, the public relations body of the cult, is holding its own gathering. 1/
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@wpath, in their latest guidelines, not only removed the section on ethics - they also added a section on eunuchs. It is not a respectable organisation. 2/

Alisdair Gunn talks about how Genspect's rival conference in this lost corner of Ireland came about: over a chat in a cafe with @stellaomalley3. It seemed unlikely to be a success, but the reaction (and the crowd) says otherwise. 3/
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Stella O'Malley says this event is necessary because the ideology that underlies transgenderism must not go unchallenged. Some of the people here - parents and detransitioners - are devastated. She talks of her first encounter with these destroyed lives. 4/
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She talks of lying doctors and quirky kids - "Somebody tells you you can take some medicine and you can be a different person." When they (the trans kids) realise they've made a mistake, they are discharged and discarded. 5/
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The atmosphere of the @wpath conference, also happening in Killarney today, is very upbeat and positive, says @stellaomalley3 but when you get into the content of their "standards of care" (a misnomer), and encounter things like eunuchs and NB, it's clearly a charade. 6/

We're not trying to say we have the answers, says @stellaomalley3, we are saying we need to have a discussion. She encourages the mental health professionals to talk to the feminists and the activists and the medical doctors and the teachers. #GenspectBiggerPicture 7/

This is the @genspect "big tent" that we are trying to create, she says. "People are starting to come to the realisation that there are other perspectives."

"This is part of getting ourselves out of this mess we are in." #GenspectBiggerPicture 8/

@HJoyceGender: When did she get interested in this topic? She discovered that some people "really really meant it when they said men could be women." When she realised lesbians were being called bigots for refusing to date trans "women" - she was hooked.
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Where ideology meets healthcare:

@HJoyceGender: "I wrote my book because I looked at those detransitioners - they are where ideology meets healthcare, and the whole thing explodes." 10/
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Most people don't act until they realise it's hurting kids, says @HJoyceGender. "So you ask yourself 'why don't they leave the kids alone?" They would probably get away with it if they did, she says. "Men in women's prisons, men in women's sports" etc. 11/
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@HJoyceGender quotes @JonHaidt, who believes we are teaching kids: "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you weaker". Mentions his ideas about "anti-cognitive behavioural therapy". 12/
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Should people be expected to live up to the constraints of society, or is self-actualisation more important? A liberal democracy is an attempt to marry those ideas - but the liberal side "has been pushed to an extreme" says @HJoyceGender 13/
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"Coercively assigned at birth" - that's a new one. @HJoyceGender 14/

"We are reconstructing society as if everyone is running one-man shows. But everyone is a supporting actor, not just your audience." @HJoyceGender 15/
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There is a reframing of transgenderism as a human rights cause, by adopting the language etc. - but it's incompatible with human rights because subjective identities trump everything else. @HJoyceGender
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"People walking into gender clinics think they are getting healthcare. I think of gender clinics increasingly as a stage where people go to perform their gender" - at least the gender clinicians are treating it that way. 17/@HJoyceGender #GenspectBiggerPicture

@MForstater's up next: tells the story of her court case again. No matter how many times I hear it, it still sounds completely bananas. "It's transphobic" - two words - "kicked off this panic." 18/
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That a man is a man and a woman is a woman - "they call it a philosophical belief, which sounds fancy" but it's "what your grandmother believes" says @MForstater lol 19/
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Any similar Forstater-type Irish court case will be complicated by the fact that the Irish gov didn't transpose the EU law correctly - religion is protected but not philosophical belief - @MForstater 20/
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On the origins of @SexMattersOrg - we are focused on legislative change, says @MForstater - just like Stonewall. 21/
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We're not a feminist organisation, says @MForstater, but she used the line "Come and join Big Vagina" when encouraging @HJoyceGender to join @SexMattersOrg
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The activists have targetted schools, says @MForstater, so a lot of our work is concentrated there. It's exclusively UK-focussed - "a flaw", jokes @stellaomalley3. 23/
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Maya Forstater recently contributed as a witness in the @Rianne_Vogels tribunal, and she noticed Norway mirrored the UK context - the same organisations, the same pressures... she and @HJoyceGender hope the UK successes can be reproduced elsewhere 24/
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Question time: @ThoughtfulTs asks: why is the gov making hate crimes laws and other unnecessary laws? @HJoyceGender says govs pass laws just because. @MForstater: re conversion therapy - they noticed it when self-ID failed. "It's a great bit of marketing - but it's nonsense."

From @TheCountessIE: "go into schools, question the resources, and ask to opt out. That will become more pertinent in the coming months as the curriculum is rolled out." /26

What about the situation in the non-English speaking world? someone asks. The closer you are culturally to the US, the sooner it took hold, says Helen Joyce. Each country context will be different in how they solve this. 27/
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Haha some Jamaican guy stands up and says "this is the epitome of a first-world problem" and everyone laughs looooool 28/
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The NGOs that are trans-captured but who also deal in the developing world - they are inconsistent - orgs like @AmnestyUK will say the UK must have mixed sex toilets but refugee camps should not, says @MForstater 29/
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The international development scene: people in the developing world - they will put pronouns in their bio to please the donors. That's pretty messed up. 30/
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