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Panel: what if they're gay and not trans? at @genspect conference in Killarney

Featuring @iseult @TullipR Alasdair Gunn Jet London @TwisterFilm and @BenjaminABoyce 1/
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There is a lot of aggressiveness and discrimination towards butch lesbians, says @iseult. @TwisterFilm says as was a camp little boy, he would have been "fast-tracked" to gender transition if he grew up now.2/
There is bullying going on now, but it's bonkers organisations that go into schools, and they "trap" gender non-conforming kids into gender ideology, says @TwisterFilm. @AllianceLGB counters this. 3/
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Jet London talks about the Amsterdam clinic that diagnosed her and prescribed hormones and mastectomy: "after three years I realised I'm not any happier." She was 20. She didn't transition because she felt she couldn't live up to female stereotypes. 4/
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"Somebody should have told me at 14 that I didn't have to live up to expectations" like having long hair and other superficial female stereotypes. 5/
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@TullipR hates how there's a lack of compassion for people who identify as trans. Gets a bit wobbly-voiced at the end. He's right: we tend to call boys going through this perverts. That's horrible. 6/
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"A lot of people look to detransitioners like we will have the answers but I'm the one who walked into a burning building and got burnt - and people are now asking me how to put out fires," says @TullipR 7/
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Alasdair Gunn: "You get to a point where you don't care about sex, you care about love. And we know that if you do this to someone, you are reducing their dating pool by over 90%. You are depriving these people of love." 8/
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"When you're 20 you don't care. We, the adults, have to tell them to think about the future. This is depriving people of love - and that is criminal and cruel," - Alasdiar Gunn. 9/
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"How is it that a movement that was set up 50 years ago to liberate our sexuality, now we are stealing people's ability to have a sex life." @TwisterFilm 10/
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I'm convinced that homosexuality gives people the "ick" says @iseult. They would much rather talk about gender identity. 11/
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Jet London met a lesbian she liked. But the hormone suppression meant she had no sexual feelings - except the libido given to her by testosterone. But it felt like it wasn't her own. "It's a human rights violation to take that from someone."
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It wasn't my own sexuality, she says. That's so tragic. 13/
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People don't realise how strong testosterone is, says @TwisterFilm. But @TullipR says the cocktail of hormones trans-identifying men take, too, can make you f*cking mental. "I'll never have a sex life." 14/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Alasdair addresses @wpath: you're really crap allies. Take the rainbow flag out of your bio. These are real people's lives - not just numbers." @TullipR says "Fuck WPATH". 15/
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"What if they're straight, and not trans? It's still a barbaric thing to do to anyone." 16/
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Apr 28
Lisa Littman is talking about her paper, that came out 5 years ago, in which she proposed ROGD. @genspect #GenspectBiggerPicture 1/
@LisaLittman1 got emails from therapists thanking her for her research, telling her they had witnessed ROGD in their own practice. But the research, she said, "touched a nerve." Knowing laughs break out in the room. 2/
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Apr 28
Conversion therapy bans: @stellaomalley3 is going to talk about @genspect's reaction to a report on conversion therapy carried out by @tcddublin. These bans are very badly worded, she says - is it cluelessness or something else? 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
"My criticism of the conversion therapy bans is that they are useless. It doesn't happen." I know from my own research that this is the same in Belgium and France, too. 2/
She talks about post-modern conversion therapy. "They have changed the definition of conversion therapy to include gender identity and gender expression. They are conflating 3 things." 2/
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Apr 28
@genspect Alasdair Gunn takes the stage. Talks about how he met a bunch of parents of trans boys, about whom not much had been written at all, published about it in @Quillette. 1/
Alasdair was groomed online as a kid, which turned him into a paedophile hunter (a couple of men went to prison.) He started to wonder if "trans" boys were being groomed too. "Now," he says "they can just say 'gender'" #GenspectBiggerPicture 2/
He talks about his experience as a cancer patient. He goes to see his doctor, she asks about exercise, diet, friends. "She doesn't do that because she thinks I'm interesting - it's because she's treating me." 3/
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Apr 28
Panel with @cwknews @sueevansprotect and @stellaomalley3. A woman from the States asks Davies-Arai about book bans in her country. There is an instinct to ban the books - but getting rid of the books will not make these beliefs disappear. 1/
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@cwknews: I think the answer is education because you won't put this genie back in the bottle. Provide alternatives, like @RooneyRachel's My Body Is Me. We need more books that challenge the idea you have to change your body. @Transgendertrd has another one in the pipeline. 2/
I'm glad nobody tried to take my pain away from me when I was growing up, says Davies-Arai. Clinical psychologist gets up and says yes, we need alternatives. But the UK institutions will just see alternatives as transphobic. 3/
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Apr 28
Here's @sueevansprotect at the @genspect event. "Listening yesterday reminded me about how complex we all are - we shouldn't apply definitive statements in this area." 1/

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Starts talking about minds, babies and Freud stuff. Some people deal better with trauma, but we all have to learn that we don't always come first, to separate from our carers, and deal with it. That makes healthy minds. 2/
She said the kids coming to GIDS (Tavistock) reminded her of the adolescents she saw who had anorexia, other mental health disorders. Some of them had "cut themselves off", like "something has been gotten rid of." There was a deadness about them - monosyllabic answers. 3/
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Apr 28
Stephanie Davies-Arai (@cwknews) next up at @genspect conference. She wants to talk about the concept of "trans kids". Shows an old pic of two tomboys dressed in typical boy clothes. What happened to these 2 girls? 1/
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The picture was her and her sister. She struggled against puberty and womanhood - or more precisely, she was struggling against what society told her a woman was in a sexist 70s culture.

"I want to know what has changed." 2/
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The cultural landscape for girls has gotten so intense - Instagram, with its impossible standards, violent and degrading porn on smartphones... and gender identity is being taught in schools as fact. 3/
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