Michael Bigss mentions the cowboys of @GenderGP who are selling these drugs online anyway. He calls for proper randomised controlled clinical trials. 2/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Zucker mentions some obscure journal from aeons ago that says psychotherapeutic interventions are useless in the face of transsexualism - which is why drugs were considered. The kids Zucker saw in his Toronto clinic - he says hormones were the best they could do. 3/
Zucker calls himself a radical centrist in that he doesn't think one size fits all. Says he is opposed to doctors handing out prescriptions too easily - he advocates for exploration. "Isn't everyone's goal to reduce gender dysphoria?" 4/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
(Not sure how Zucker's comments will go down in this crowd - plenty of opponents of puberty blockers in the room today.) 5/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
As a gay man, says @TwisterFilm, "it looks to me like we are back to medicalising homosexuality." But as a science documentary maker, I look at Zucker's (presentation) and I think: nature provided puberty as a treatment for gender dysphoria... 6/
"Doctors are medicalising the solution to gender dysphoria," says @TwisterFilm. He says he doesn't think children should ever be given puberty blockers. Huge applause in the room. 7/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Zucker explains why a randomised controlled trial of puberty blockers wouldn't work out: some parents wouldn't dream of putting their kids on blockers while the parents who *want* their kids on blockers wouldn't agree because of the possibility their kid might get the dud drug 8/
@stellaomalley3:
"So where do we go from here?" @TwisterFilm agrees RCTs would be too difficult. "We've been talking about puberty blocker studies being done in good faith, but now it's being done by people like @jack_turban." It's too political, he says.9/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
@ZUCKERKJ says we need to do more research into the new phenomenon of ROGD. @TwisterFilm cites the early Gooren research that suggested there was a trans brain - that changed the debate because it felt like it was a bio issue. But it was never replicated. 10/
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Goodbye from Genspect! @stellaomalley3says the 3 papers discussed will be published online. Slides will be available. 1720 viewers watching the livestream! Mentions some lovely wins. A @genspect member wearing her lanyard was stopped by a local who said the town was so proud /1
(running to catch a train to Dublin - will tweet final thoughts when I’ve stopped moving) 2/
Highlights for me, personally, at @genspect: meeting and shaking hands with @kaltial, who led Finland out of the darkness (at least for now) and led to Sweden and Norway stopping hormones for kids. Rumours are that Denmark might be next. 3/
Difference between young people going to war, or getting a tattoo is that we never tell people that this will solve their problems. Detransitioners blame themselves, but @LisaMarchiano tells detransitioners that adults told them this would solve their problems. 2/
Talks about a woman who helped her daughter transition and then started to get dizzy and disorientated when out for walks - the result of her falsification of reality, says @LisaMarchiano 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Here's @elizamondegreen: Have to thank @EuropeanPATH because they closed out their conference by blasting the song "Don't stop believin'" lol - she says it would have been a great title for her talk. 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Eliza will be talking about the internet (*the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, to paraphrase Homer Simpson). 2/
She trawled and analysed Reddit communities set up for "trans" girls/women. She says there is a lot of helping to prep for the medical visits to make sure they get what they want. Doubt is not welcome. Same at @EuropeanPATH. 3/
Recounts the story of "David" who grew up with alcoholic/hoarder parents. He grew up in madness. He was full of anxiety about fires, collapse, monsters. He was constantly alert. Spent his entire life trying to ward off disaster. He's full of what @jburgo55 calls "core shame" 2/
David felt repulsive and ugly, a dumpster kid. Was able to fit in with others by observing them closely. When he first started watching porn, he found that degradation attracted him most. Couldn't identify with the men in the videos. 3/
The Lost Boys panel at @genspect moderated by @BenjaminABoyce. Corrina from @heterodorx asks the audience to shout out his pronouns. A chorus of HE/HIM and laughs. He talks about lack of male role models and the role it probs played in is transition 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
He said he was lost. He wanted a way out. @marcuse99903226 says boys without fathers often can't find themselves, there is nobody to help mediate the relationship between him and his mother. @jburgo55 says messaging makes men out to be toxic. They feel bad about themselves. 2/
Escaping into a female identity is a way to escape shame about being predatory or other male tropes, @jburgo55 adds. I often point out to boys the ways that are masculine but who don't recognise as masculine. Vocation (work) helps, says Alasdair Gunn 3/
@iseult: let's not ban books! All parents should have the option to opt out of the national curriculum. @ColetteColfer, who teaches at university level, got an all-staff email presenting the uni's new progress pride badges that staff can wear to show how open they are (!) 2/
Yes, says @ColetteColfer, let's teach *about* gender identity - but not that everyone HAS a gender identity. Same with flat earth, creationism, says Estelle Birdy. I'm worried about morality-based teaching, and I have concerns about sex education 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture