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Apr 28 • 11 tweets • 5 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter
Lisa Littman is talking about her paper, that came out 5 years ago, in which she proposed ROGD. @genspect #GenspectBiggerPicture 1/
@LisaLittman1 got emails from therapists thanking her for her research, telling her they had witnessed ROGD in their own practice. But the research, she said, "touched a nerve." Knowing laughs break out in the room. 2/
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There are different transition pathways, and this "bigger picture" is lost in conversations about gender dysphoria, says @LisaLittman1 3/
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Her first study involved people who medically transitioned and then medically detransitioned, the females were different in that they were younger when they transitioned but also younger when they detransitioned - and they stayed "trans" for shorter length of time. 4/
These were people who had not had gender dysphoria growing up. Criticism of Litmman's work includes claims that the parents just overlooked the girls' gender dysphoria - but these were self-reported answers. 5/
Why did they detransition? Various reasons, says @LisaLittman1: Their mental health got worse, they realised their distress was caused by trauma, or their idea of men and women had changed. 6/
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Girls felt pressured, in some self-reported cases, including by friends but also clinicians. Some friend groups actively mocked non-trans people. Online communities, too. 7/
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Open text survey questions revealed internalised homophobia - which @LisaLittman1 hadn't anticipated. So detransition was a result of accepting their homosexuality. 8/
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About half said clinicians were overly positive about the effects of transition. When asked: would you do it again knowing what you know now? A majority of detransitioners said "No." In conclusion: the experiences are diverse. 9/
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A paper currently in peer review answers some questions about eg why detransitioners are lost to follow up. Also a study being planned re long-term follow up of transitioners and their families.
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@LisaLittman1 has a non-profit that needs support eg help to hire someone help with recruitment for these important studies. littmanresearch.com/news-2/ #GenspectBiggerPicture

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Apr 29
Goodbye from Genspect! @stellaomalley3says the 3 papers discussed will be published online. Slides will be available. 1720 viewers watching the livestream! Mentions some lovely wins. A @genspect member wearing her lanyard was stopped by a local who said the town was so proud /1
(running to catch a train to Dublin - will tweet final thoughts when I’ve stopped moving) 2/
Highlights for me, personally, at @genspect: meeting and shaking hands with @kaltial, who led Finland out of the darkness (at least for now) and led to Sweden and Norway stopping hormones for kids. Rumours are that Denmark might be next. 3/
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Apr 29
Last talk of the @genspect conference by @LisaMarchiano 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Difference between young people going to war, or getting a tattoo is that we never tell people that this will solve their problems. Detransitioners blame themselves, but @LisaMarchiano tells detransitioners that adults told them this would solve their problems. 2/
Talks about a woman who helped her daughter transition and then started to get dizzy and disorientated when out for walks - the result of her falsification of reality, says @LisaMarchiano 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
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Apr 29
Here's @elizamondegreen: Have to thank @EuropeanPATH because they closed out their conference by blasting the song "Don't stop believin'" lol - she says it would have been a great title for her talk. 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Eliza will be talking about the internet (*the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, to paraphrase Homer Simpson). 2/
She trawled and analysed Reddit communities set up for "trans" girls/women. She says there is a lot of helping to prep for the medical visits to make sure they get what they want. Doubt is not welcome. Same at @EuropeanPATH. 3/
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Apr 29
The @genspect talk on autogynephilia by @jburgo55 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Recounts the story of "David" who grew up with alcoholic/hoarder parents. He grew up in madness. He was full of anxiety about fires, collapse, monsters. He was constantly alert. Spent his entire life trying to ward off disaster. He's full of what @jburgo55 calls "core shame" 2/
David felt repulsive and ugly, a dumpster kid. Was able to fit in with others by observing them closely. When he first started watching porn, he found that degradation attracted him most. Couldn't identify with the men in the videos. 3/
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Apr 29
The Lost Boys panel at @genspect moderated by @BenjaminABoyce. Corrina from @heterodorx asks the audience to shout out his pronouns. A chorus of HE/HIM and laughs. He talks about lack of male role models and the role it probs played in is transition 1/
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He said he was lost. He wanted a way out. @marcuse99903226 says boys without fathers often can't find themselves, there is nobody to help mediate the relationship between him and his mother. @jburgo55 says messaging makes men out to be toxic. They feel bad about themselves. 2/
Escaping into a female identity is a way to escape shame about being predatory or other male tropes, @jburgo55 adds. I often point out to boys the ways that are masculine but who don't recognise as masculine. Vocation (work) helps, says Alasdair Gunn 3/
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Apr 29
Education: we have to resist the indoctrination of a generation, says @anliathluachra on the next @genspect panel. 1/
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@iseult: let's not ban books! All parents should have the option to opt out of the national curriculum. @ColetteColfer, who teaches at university level, got an all-staff email presenting the uni's new progress pride badges that staff can wear to show how open they are (!) 2/
Yes, says @ColetteColfer, let's teach *about* gender identity - but not that everyone HAS a gender identity. Same with flat earth, creationism, says Estelle Birdy. I'm worried about morality-based teaching, and I have concerns about sex education 3/
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