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Panel discussion about how parents are being excluded from medical decisions about their children at @genspect, with @stellaomalley3 @drgypsy and @jburgo55. Very topical discussion considering what's going on in the US. #GenspectBiggerPicture 1/
Joe Burgo was treated with contempt by the medical profession with regards to his trans-identifying child. "We have handed it over to the children and the world at large to decide what's true." This feels very new to him, he says. 2/
The theme of the separation of parent from their child is happening via the medical professional driving a wedge between them, says @drgypsy. In her parents' support groups, they talk about how they can win back that right to parent our children. 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Stella describes how parents going through this get so isolated: you can't talk about it, and you don't go to the media. You live in fear. 17 felt like the most stressful age (feels like the soldiers are coming, one parent said) because once the hit 18 everything changes. 4/
@drgypsy talks about parents calling into meetings from the bathroom, from their car...not sure about what pronouns they can use for their child. @jburgo55 says you have to decide if you lean into your authority, but that's dangerous because wider society is not on your side. 5/
@sueevansprotect says: the children are indeed distressed and struggling. But the other thing that has to be tackled in this area is that they are aggrieved, controlling and they are dominating families. 6/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
They are controlling the family. @jburgo55 says it's part of the child-led parenting phenomenon. We need to help them through the horror of adolescence - but we don't have to save them from it, we don't have to cure it for them. 7/
Regarding parents hiding away in the car on Zoom calls, says @marcuse99903226 - it's a bad idea to act like it's you who has done something wrong. But @drgypsy talks about the horror story in Ontario taking away a child for not affirming them. Parents fear this, she says 8/
@stellaomalley3 brings up @iseult's talk from yesterday on the "chilling effect". This fear of your child might be taken away - people are "chilled" by it, but if you live in Ireland or the UK, for example, it's not something that can happen. (Not so in Canada, says @drgypsy) 9/
A mother of a detransitioner gets up. Her son transitioned back before this current mania erupted, so she believed the doctors. She talks about being called "lucky" because her son detransitioned, which is an awful feeling. 10/

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Apr 29
Goodbye from Genspect! @stellaomalley3says the 3 papers discussed will be published online. Slides will be available. 1720 viewers watching the livestream! Mentions some lovely wins. A @genspect member wearing her lanyard was stopped by a local who said the town was so proud /1
(running to catch a train to Dublin - will tweet final thoughts when I’ve stopped moving) 2/
Highlights for me, personally, at @genspect: meeting and shaking hands with @kaltial, who led Finland out of the darkness (at least for now) and led to Sweden and Norway stopping hormones for kids. Rumours are that Denmark might be next. 3/
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Apr 29
Last talk of the @genspect conference by @LisaMarchiano 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Difference between young people going to war, or getting a tattoo is that we never tell people that this will solve their problems. Detransitioners blame themselves, but @LisaMarchiano tells detransitioners that adults told them this would solve their problems. 2/
Talks about a woman who helped her daughter transition and then started to get dizzy and disorientated when out for walks - the result of her falsification of reality, says @LisaMarchiano 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
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Apr 29
Here's @elizamondegreen: Have to thank @EuropeanPATH because they closed out their conference by blasting the song "Don't stop believin'" lol - she says it would have been a great title for her talk. 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Eliza will be talking about the internet (*the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, to paraphrase Homer Simpson). 2/
She trawled and analysed Reddit communities set up for "trans" girls/women. She says there is a lot of helping to prep for the medical visits to make sure they get what they want. Doubt is not welcome. Same at @EuropeanPATH. 3/
Read 11 tweets
Apr 29
The @genspect talk on autogynephilia by @jburgo55 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Recounts the story of "David" who grew up with alcoholic/hoarder parents. He grew up in madness. He was full of anxiety about fires, collapse, monsters. He was constantly alert. Spent his entire life trying to ward off disaster. He's full of what @jburgo55 calls "core shame" 2/
David felt repulsive and ugly, a dumpster kid. Was able to fit in with others by observing them closely. When he first started watching porn, he found that degradation attracted him most. Couldn't identify with the men in the videos. 3/
Read 9 tweets
Apr 29
The Lost Boys panel at @genspect moderated by @BenjaminABoyce. Corrina from @heterodorx asks the audience to shout out his pronouns. A chorus of HE/HIM and laughs. He talks about lack of male role models and the role it probs played in is transition 1/
#GenspectBiggerPicture
He said he was lost. He wanted a way out. @marcuse99903226 says boys without fathers often can't find themselves, there is nobody to help mediate the relationship between him and his mother. @jburgo55 says messaging makes men out to be toxic. They feel bad about themselves. 2/
Escaping into a female identity is a way to escape shame about being predatory or other male tropes, @jburgo55 adds. I often point out to boys the ways that are masculine but who don't recognise as masculine. Vocation (work) helps, says Alasdair Gunn 3/
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Apr 29
Education: we have to resist the indoctrination of a generation, says @anliathluachra on the next @genspect panel. 1/
#GenspectBiggerPicture
@iseult: let's not ban books! All parents should have the option to opt out of the national curriculum. @ColetteColfer, who teaches at university level, got an all-staff email presenting the uni's new progress pride badges that staff can wear to show how open they are (!) 2/
Yes, says @ColetteColfer, let's teach *about* gender identity - but not that everyone HAS a gender identity. Same with flat earth, creationism, says Estelle Birdy. I'm worried about morality-based teaching, and I have concerns about sex education 3/
#GenspectBiggerPicture
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