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Last talk of the @genspect conference by @LisaMarchiano 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Difference between young people going to war, or getting a tattoo is that we never tell people that this will solve their problems. Detransitioners blame themselves, but @LisaMarchiano tells detransitioners that adults told them this would solve their problems. 2/
Talks about a woman who helped her daughter transition and then started to get dizzy and disorientated when out for walks - the result of her falsification of reality, says @LisaMarchiano 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Another young woman was planning her suicide. She had quickly done major interventions after coming out as trans. She was very isolated, couldn't accept being a lesbian. She had lots of comorbidities, had been eg. anorexic, OCD. 4/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
@LisaMarchiano used this case to describe the gender-affirming model of care. She gives a definition of the model of care, as described by ideologue, Diane Ehrensaft: "It is not for us to tell, but for children to say," 5/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
The affirmative model of care leaves psychosocial issues unadressed, it rests on a false premise, encourages patients to make decisions based on a belief system that denies reality. 6/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
@LisaMarchiano: "The body becomes the vehicle for metaphorical expression" 7/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Quotes a detransitioned woman: "it was away for me to escape my reality as a homosexual woman." But she realised removing her uterus and ovaries didn't make her any less of a woman - it was just castration. 8/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
That which cannot be changed: coming to terms with bodily reality is a major part of adolescence, quotes @LisaMarchiano (didn't catch who she's quoting). She's now quoting lots of Jung, can't keep up. 9/
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"The body denies their convictions" - @LisaMarchiano 10/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
What is (transgenderism) trying to cure in the collective? It locates psychic pain in the body and attempts to medicalise it and treat it, says @LisaMarchiano 11/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Are we unconsciously seeking a new way to conceptualise spirit? Does transness offer this? A way to overcome our corporeal form? An attempt to find the divine hidden in the new? If this is the corrective offered, we should be informed - and stay in touch with reality. 12/
Final Q&A. Alasdair Gunn asks @elizamondegreen about a comment she once made about @wpath, about there being no link between the abstract and the human level. No question of ethics, she says, and it makes her grateful for the last few days at this event. 13/#GenspectBiggerPicture
What to offer the kids left hanging after the closure of GIDS? someone asks. Plain old-fashioned therapy, says @LisaMarchiano 14/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Parents are the experts on their own children. Every single era has had issues to contend with re raising children. She says we have to know as much as we can about what's happening - we won't get blindsided like parents 10 years ago did. 15/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
@LisaMarchiano says "get them off the internet." 16/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
One participant comes back to the talk about shame - and wants to point out that the people pushing these fanatical ideas have no shame. @jburgo55 thinks they are constantly attacking and degrading as a way not to have to deal with their own damage. 17/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
He says we are taking the shame out of everything except disagreeing with this dogma. 18/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
We are losing the language for shame kids feel when going through adolescence, says @elizamondegreen. The kids feel the shame, but the message is that they *shoudn't feel shame and so there is something wrong if they do. 19/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
@stellaomalley3 says guilt is an opportunity for a better self, but it can turn into corrosive shame. 20/
People don't like it when you make them face reality, says the Jamaican man who made everyone laugh with his "first-world problems" quip on day 1. #GenspectBiggerPicture 21/
Carrie Mendoza, from the audience: I saw doctors writing opioid prescriptions just to avoid confronting patients. What's going on now is similar. Bonuses/salaries are based on patient satisfaction scores. (Absurd!) 22/
Audience member: teach your kids how to think critically. 23/ #GenspectBiggerPicture

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Apr 29
Goodbye from Genspect! @stellaomalley3says the 3 papers discussed will be published online. Slides will be available. 1720 viewers watching the livestream! Mentions some lovely wins. A @genspect member wearing her lanyard was stopped by a local who said the town was so proud /1
(running to catch a train to Dublin - will tweet final thoughts when I’ve stopped moving) 2/
Highlights for me, personally, at @genspect: meeting and shaking hands with @kaltial, who led Finland out of the darkness (at least for now) and led to Sweden and Norway stopping hormones for kids. Rumours are that Denmark might be next. 3/
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Apr 29
Here's @elizamondegreen: Have to thank @EuropeanPATH because they closed out their conference by blasting the song "Don't stop believin'" lol - she says it would have been a great title for her talk. 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Eliza will be talking about the internet (*the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, to paraphrase Homer Simpson). 2/
She trawled and analysed Reddit communities set up for "trans" girls/women. She says there is a lot of helping to prep for the medical visits to make sure they get what they want. Doubt is not welcome. Same at @EuropeanPATH. 3/
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Apr 29
The @genspect talk on autogynephilia by @jburgo55 1/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
Recounts the story of "David" who grew up with alcoholic/hoarder parents. He grew up in madness. He was full of anxiety about fires, collapse, monsters. He was constantly alert. Spent his entire life trying to ward off disaster. He's full of what @jburgo55 calls "core shame" 2/
David felt repulsive and ugly, a dumpster kid. Was able to fit in with others by observing them closely. When he first started watching porn, he found that degradation attracted him most. Couldn't identify with the men in the videos. 3/
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Apr 29
The Lost Boys panel at @genspect moderated by @BenjaminABoyce. Corrina from @heterodorx asks the audience to shout out his pronouns. A chorus of HE/HIM and laughs. He talks about lack of male role models and the role it probs played in is transition 1/
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He said he was lost. He wanted a way out. @marcuse99903226 says boys without fathers often can't find themselves, there is nobody to help mediate the relationship between him and his mother. @jburgo55 says messaging makes men out to be toxic. They feel bad about themselves. 2/
Escaping into a female identity is a way to escape shame about being predatory or other male tropes, @jburgo55 adds. I often point out to boys the ways that are masculine but who don't recognise as masculine. Vocation (work) helps, says Alasdair Gunn 3/
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Apr 29
Education: we have to resist the indoctrination of a generation, says @anliathluachra on the next @genspect panel. 1/
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@iseult: let's not ban books! All parents should have the option to opt out of the national curriculum. @ColetteColfer, who teaches at university level, got an all-staff email presenting the uni's new progress pride badges that staff can wear to show how open they are (!) 2/
Yes, says @ColetteColfer, let's teach *about* gender identity - but not that everyone HAS a gender identity. Same with flat earth, creationism, says Estelle Birdy. I'm worried about morality-based teaching, and I have concerns about sex education 3/
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Apr 29
Here's @ColetteColfer who will demonstrate how gender ideology is like a religion. "Gender identity is real for people whether it exists or not." 1/#GenspectBiggerPicture
She talks about an article that she pitched to the Irish Times and it was accepted - but mysteriously never got published. She read a book by a man called A James Gregor on political religions in the 20th century - which are secular but have religious characteristics. 2/
Gregor says if claims are falsiifed, it won't lead to abandonment of the claims among adherents. Colfer lists all parallels between religions and trans ideology and all the main boxes are ticked. 3/ #GenspectBiggerPicture
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