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@wanyeburkett
May 3 • 4 tweets • 2 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter
I think we are genuinely at an impasse with these people. This is deeply unserious and tendentious to the point of absurdity. You can have a serious conversation about escalation, but not with people who describe what happened here in these terms.
There is nothing "pure and simple" about this case and others like it. What a deeply unserious thing to say.
Shameful people who experience no reputational loss for saying such extreme things on the timeline. This should be disqualifying. ImageImageImage
They run in circles where "just asking questions" and "waiting for the facts" code negatively. Anti-intellectual circles, in other words. Circles where you are judged not by your understanding of the facts, but by a willingness to breathlessly affirm religious principles.

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May 3
This latest round of the discourse just further demonstrates the inversion of the “exactly one proposition” quote that progressives love. From those on the bottom nothing shall be expected, because they are definitionally victims. They can be protected, but they are not bound.
Notice that in principle there is basically nothing that the crazy homeless guy can do that will be given a full-throated condemnation. He is protected, but not bound. Only those he intimidates and threatens are bound by the law.
When the insane homeless guy violates the law perhaps literally thousands of times, then that’s fine, because he is not bound by the law. Your response to him, obviously, will be relentlessly scrutinized, because you are indeed bound by the law.
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May 3
“Get these people away from me” is actually a coherent and effective structural solution to the problem Image
Progressives reject the only option in the policy landscape that’s known to be effective in favor of softer less-proven approaches. And, like, fine, but that doesn’t mean the other approach is invalid.
I'm actually totally fine with throwing a bunch of money at wild ideas to solve the problem, so long as 1) there is a quantifiable policy goal that must be met along a defined timeline; and 2) people who fall out of that system and continue to be disruptive should be incarcerated
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May 3
The way people in a big city resolve difficult ethical dilemmas and deal with quantifiable risks is basically to say, "it probably won't happen to you," which seems deeply unfair to those who get the short straw, but that's apparently not even remotely compelling to them?
In some contexts these are people who profess the belief that "injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere," but then in others, you know, not so much
People with an ethic of "just ignore it" and "it probably won't happen to you, so who cares" really seem pretty sure of their metaphysics, huh? Funny, that.
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May 3
Not killing the crazy guy police won't deal with or ignoring the crazy guy police won't deal with, but a secret third thing
If you ride the NYC subway you absolutely will be screamed at and threatened. That's not even a question. (In fact, it's what New Yorkers are repeating ad nauseam today to argue this was an abnormal response to something quite normal)

You might actually have a duty to avoid that
You are putting yourself in a predictable bind wherein you will inevitably be forced into an ethically ambiguous corner. The typical New Yorker thinks "simply ignore it" is a free pass out of this dilemma, but I think that is completely mistaken.
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May 3
Here it is: the least surprising thing ever reported
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There is just no way around it: in this kind of case you're going to have to give one side or the other the benefit of the doubt. And, amazingly, lots of people think it's the insane guy with a long history of violence that deserves it, not the guy who responded to his threats.
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May 3
FYI: there doesn't exist any magical way to restrain somebody that carries with it no risk of injury to either party
I think what I'd want to ask the people claiming this was "cold blooded murder" is 1) if they think there's any scenario that justifies restraining someone; and if so, 2) did they know that there's no fool-proof way to do that; and 3) what they think should happen instead?
Related: people often say, "that wasn't a capital offense" and, sure, that assessment can be made *after* the immediate physical conflict is over. But *during* physical contact anything can happen and the standard must necessarily be different.
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