Thread by @Richard_Autism

"As a result of this broadening of the way that autism and the autism spectrum are seen, the contributors’ view is that PDA is currently best understood as a
‘profile’ (or cluster of traits) on the autism spectrum."
PDA Society 2022, p3.

Above quote is from PDA Society's apparent research report pretending to be clinical guidance, p3.

Link to where above quote is from is below:
pdasociety.org.uk/wp-content/upl…

"As a result of this broadening of the way that autism and the autism spectrum are seen, the contributors’ view is that PDA is currently best understood as a ‘profile’ (or cluster of traits) on the autism spectrum."

I think claim by PDA Society is blatant nonsense/ "bullshit".

Richard you have not said anything new here, why are you quoting that bold claim by PDA Society?

I want to create a diagram which effectively shows that claim by PDA Society is nonsense.

So how would show claim:
""As a result of this broadening of the way that autism and the autism spectrum are seen, the contributors’ view is that PDA is currently best understood as a ‘profile’ (or cluster of traits) on the autism spectrum.""
Is nonsense?

Simple to do what they say to include those traits as a cluster which is meant to be within autism spectrum. Problem is, when you do that, you show that PDA is blatantly NOT autism.

Create a diagram which has continua of PDA features with traits which are described in PDA at one end; i.e., clustering. When one does that is also shows that PDA is clearly NOT autism.

Who would have thought that? Apparently not those behind this report:
pdasociety.org.uk/wp-content/upl…

So the diagram should in some ways look like this one below, which has DSM-5 autism criteria versus PDA criteria in print. Image is from Woods 2021, p10.

Or something like the below image, but showing slightly different information.
Below images are the same image, but with text colours inverted for ease of access.
Image shows PDA features versus DSM-5 autism ones, with "Profound Autism" included for comparison.

Previous images text are showing to well. I have taken screenshots of the previous images, so hopefully people can access them better.

I should note previous diagrams are there basically showing the contrast between "perplexing" & "classic" autism as suggested by "PDA Profile of ASD" discourse. It does not represent my views on how autism should be constructed.

Below is a draft of one of the two new diagrams I am intending to make. This is a continuum of PDA's demand-avoidance to compliance with demands.
Does anyone have any feedback?

Latest draft of the diagram, if people would like to provide feedback.

Previous image is building on below table, which compares different PDA diagnostic thresholds with different diagnostic category thresholds in DSM-5.

The previous table information is mainly conveyed in below diagram, which shows PDA's internalising versus externalising continuum versus number of settings demand-avoidance presents in 2D model.

Below is the first draft of the second diagram I intended to create. It is "PDA Profile of ASD" constellation of traits within autism spectrum as claimed by PDA Society.
What do people think?

Below has 11 continua of features, which are representative of "PDA Profile of ASD" clinical descriptions, diagnostic & screening tools. Continuums are using red & green arrows. Red to note problematic ends & green to note "normal" ends of the continuums.

The diagram also has this text on it too:
"Please do not reify this diagram. Based on RW interpretations of “PDA Profile of ASD” clinical literature, diagnostic and screening tools."

I have revised this diagram to add a sentence about how it assumes demand-avoidance & hyper fawning are intrinsic features.

Just a bit more about this diagram. This is based on my own interpretation of "PDA Profile of ASD" clinical descriptions, diagnostic & screening tools. Hence, why I say PDA has normal "theory of mind"...

... This is because I am skeptical PDA intrinsically has any social communication issues, which I explain why here:

... I also explain here that there is essentially little-no good quality evidence to suggest PDA's social avoidance features are intrinsically done without intent:
researchgate.net/publication/36…

Hopefully, people can see how my diagrams comparing "PDA Profile of ASD" to accepted autism understandings have similar aspects to them.

Below diagram challenges the bold claim:
"As a result of this broadening of the way that autism and the autism spectrum are seen, the contributors’ view is that PDA is currently best understood as a ‘profile’ (or cluster of traits) on the autism spectrum." PDA Society 2022, p3.

The two below diagrams are only drafts, I open to revising them based on feedback.

On that note, for now.

@threadreaderapp please can you unroll?

Thank you in advance.