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May 19, 2023 11 tweets 6 min read Read on X
#ClimateBrawl

The CO2 Coalition are posting a re-imaged version of a long debunked fraudulent graph branded with their logo

The original version was from mining engineer Monte Heib's old crank blog

geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carb…

Debunking thread 1/8 Image
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Heib's badly plotted graph cites 2 sources:

(CO2) Berner et al 2001
ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/61570

(Temp) Scotese's old website: scotese.com/climate.htm Image
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1. Berner et al 2001 directly REFUTES the false claim that there is "no correlation between CO2 and temperature"

"there is indeed a correlation between CO2 and paleotemperature, as manifested by the atmospheric greenhouse effect"

ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/615702…Image
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2. Scotese's old website.

scotese.com/climate.htm

Heib copied the "temperature" plot from an out-dated hand drawn sketch by Scotese

It's NOT based on any proxy temperature data.

It was just broadly estimated hot & cold periods over many millions of years Image
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Heib dishonestly & incompetently just plonked the old GEOCARB III model's CO2 plot from Berner et al 2001 over Scotese's old hand drawn plot of broad "hot and cold" periods, with no regard at all for correlating the time periods (which were over many millions of years) ImageImage
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Heib also disregarded other factors from Berner et al 2001

"Factors considered that affect temperature are the evolution of the sun, the atmospheric greenhouse effect (relating temperature to CO2), and changes in paleogeography"

ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/61570 Image
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See Foster et al 2017

"The evolution of Earth’s climate on geological timescales is largely driven by variations in the magnitude of total solar irradiance (TSI) and changes in the greenhouse gas content of the atmosphere"

nature.com/articles/ncomm… ImageImage
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Mills, Scotese et al 2018 also refute Hieb's and the CO2 Coalition's dishonest claim that there is "no correlation between CO2 and temperature "

"We find a strong relationship between CO2 forcing and temperature from the proxy data"

sciencedirect.com/science/articl… Image
There is NO published research that supports the false claim by the CO2 Coalition that there is "no correlation between CO2 & temperature throughout geological history"

Here's another similar fraudulent graph they use- popularised by Patrick Moore

All the members of the fossil fuel industry funded propaganda group "CO2 Coalition" brand themselves as dishonest disinformers when they post a faked graph branded with their logo

Happer, Moore, Wrightstone, Lindzen & Ridd to name just a few.

co2coalition.org/about/

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Patrick Moore @ecosensenow keeps using this long debunked unpublished fraudulent graph from the crank blog of a non-scientist.

See debunking thread with interviews with the "cited" scientists who say it wasn't from their work.

Moore KNOWS it's fake


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Here's another person in that thread who is posting a slightly different version of that faked graph. Like Patrick Moore, he's also blocked me for refuting his disinformation with evidence



See debunking thread:



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And here's a re-imaged version of that fraudulent unpublished graph from the @CO2Coalition
fossil fuel propaganda group.

Patrick Moore is a member.

See debunking thread:


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Aug 20, 2023
The CO2 Coalition have been posting a re-imaged version of a long debunked fraudulent graph.

The original version came from Monte Heib's (mining engineer) old crank blog.


1/9 geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carb…
Image
2/9
Heib's badly plotted graph cites 2 sources:
(CO2 plot) Berner et al 2001


("Temperature" plot) Scotese's old website:
ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/61570
scotese.com/climate.htm
Image
3/9
Berner et al 2001 actually REFUTES the claim that there is "no correlation"

"there is indeed a correlation between CO2 and paleotemperature, as manifested by the atmospheric greenhouse effect"

ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/615702…
Image
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This is hilarious 😂

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His Surface Stations project is from 2009



https://t.co/cV9Q6Y3JbOen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_W…
When sceptic Dr Richard Muller formed the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project (BEST) in 2010 to examine all the surface temperature data, Watts said he would accept the results.



He didn't. Because he didn't like their resultsberkeleyearth.org/about/
Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project on Urban Heat Island Effect:



"Our UHI paper analyzing this indicates that the urban heat island effect on our global estimate of land temperatures is indistinguishable from zero"

https://t.co/P7QOwNcu5Xberkeleyearth.org/archive/faq/#q
scitechnol.com/2327-4581/2327…
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#ClimateBrawl

@_ClimateCraze John Shewchuk keeps posting this ridiculous faked chart.

The simple crayon lines look nothing at all like the data from his "cited" source papers, and his claims are refuted by those same source papers.

See thread:
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Scotese 2002 is Christopher Scotese's old website.



A hand drawn sketch NOT based on any proxy temperature data.

It was just very broadly estimated hot & cold periods over millions of years. https://t.co/n8N1j32LwRscotese.com/climate.htm
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3/12

Berner et al 2001 is an old GEOCARB III model & has huge error bars. The data looks nothing like John's crayoned graph.

However it refutes John's claims.

https://t.co/TOFFk8PSqCajs.scholasticahq.com/article/615702…

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May 19, 2023
The CO2 Coalition have been posting a long debunked fraudulent graph.

The original version came from Monte Heib's (mining engineer) old crank blog.



See debunking thread 1/8 geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carb…
Image
2/8

Heib's badly plotted graph cites 2 sources:

(CO2 plot) Berner et al 2001


("Temperature" plot) Scotese's old website:

ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/61570
scotese.com/climate.htm
3/8

1. Berner et al 2001 actually REFUTES the claim that there is "no correlation"

"there is indeed a correlation between CO2 and paleotemperature, as manifested by the atmospheric greenhouse effect"

ajs.scholasticahq.com/article/615702…

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