Following popular British TV Host Philip Schofield’s retirement for Unknown Reasons, now seemed a good time to repost a Tribute Thread to Schofield’s fellow National Treasure Stephen Fry. This Thread was first posted by the User Mencius Moldbugman
Amongst his many talents, Fry is first and foremost an extraordinarily talented writer. His first play was written at the tender age of just 22 in 1979.
I've never had the pleasure of reading some of his early work but the reviews certainly make it sound enticing. Let's hope there are more productions coming soon.
Of course, most of you will know him from his hilarious role as presenter of the BBC celebrity panel show QI where you can frequently hear him perform humourous songs about the affairs of the day.
Fry's presenting skills are legendary. As a gifted raconteur he is regularly seen as a guest speaker at awards ceremonies...
... and on the after-dinner speaking circuit.
He is one of the few Brits to have cracked Hollywood. Fry can be seen gracing both sides of the Atlantic with his superb performances in films like The Hobbit and V For Vendetta. He is very much in demand from major Hollywood production companies...
..though, ever humble, he has never forgotten his roots and his friends back in the UK who have helped him along the way.
Outside of the public spotlight, Fry exemplifies the best of British by campaigning for a number of charities. He is a fervent believer in modernising outdated educational practices and giving children a greater voice for autonomy and freedom.
Child safety is always a priority for Fry and he has become an active member in charities dedicated to helping find missing children.
We should all be thankful that we have somebody in the public spotlight willing to courageously voice out their concerns on social justice and who is willing to risk it all to protect the vulnerable and innocent.
It is no easy task to fight the prejudices that contaminate our modern society. We need fighters like Fry to shine light onto darkness and guide us into a more progressive future.
Most of all we should be grateful that British cultural life is blessed with this towering intellect: a penetrative IQ that is able to see the nuances of public issues and provide balanced answers to complex problems.
Though a man of the deepest empathy, he is well versed in the Classics and has the tempered, logical educational background to know where the line lies between subjectivity and objectivity. If only our elected officials could display such sound judgement.
It is rare that I express my appreciation for celebrities. So many of them do little to add to the heritage that is our shared collective culture, but here is one celebrity whose impact leaves no question of doubt. Thank you and keep up the good work!
DISCLAIMER: This is a Repost of a Satirical Thread not written by me. Any views that can be said to be expressed in it do not necessarily reflect my own. This Repost is made purely for entertainment purposes and is not intended to imply or express any particular view.
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Two Australian women from the urban ‘Eshay’ subculture (the Australian equivalent of Roadman) explain their favourite slang terms in Multicultural Sydney English
“You gronk dog”
I haven’t been to Australia since before COVID so speculation but maybe because the urban centres are so geographically spread out you get slightly different slang depending on the territory and then which migrants settle there. Also urban culture less centralised in one city?
New Article published in The New Statesman about ‘The Yookay’. Article makes some attempts to be descriptive but I wanted to make a few comments on it and respond to some of the misconceptions in its framing 🧵
Author describes ‘cackling satirists’ ‘racialising’ critiques of change. It being racialised so-called is inescapable because that is the nature of the change, by normative historical standards this kind of change is remarkable. An ontological point not in and of itself ‘racist’
There is no connection between older variants of ‘Yookay’ used to make Marxist or Celtic Nationalist critiques of mid-late C20th Britain, I coined the term in 2023 as a comment on the Blairite overuse of ‘UK’ vs Britain. Commonality here is that it is an intuitive transliteration
THOUGHTS ON THE ‘YOOKAY’ AESTHETIC - WHY MODERN BRITAIN IS SO AESTHETICALLY DISORIENTATING
🧵 Britain’s ongoing demographic transformation has in recent years made unavoidable in increasingly larger parts of the country what I and others have called the ‘Yookay Aesthetic’ - a historically novel aesthetic fusion between the aesthetics of disparate new migrant groups, the aesthetics of the worldview that facilitates their immigration into Britain (called variously ‘neoliberalism’, ‘late liberalism’, ‘immigrationisme’, ‘wokeness’ and ‘gay race communism’) and the aesthetics of the Historical Britain receiving the migrants. Its relatively recent aesthetic reification as a distinct new ‘thing’ has produced a fair few quite pronounced emotional reactions and I wanted to comment on why that is, the particular elements of the emerging ‘look’ that people find so provocative.
Many people have remarked that one of the most defining qualities of the aesthetic is how jarring the effect it produces is, its incongruity. The incongruity is something like this - a Samurai in front of the Pyramids, an Aztec on the Great Wall of China, a Bedouin in the Sistine Chapel. The non sequitur effect is jolting, disorientating. Not because it is inherently impossible for distinct worlds to ever ‘cross over’ but because we have such established and normative standards for what we expect to constitute those worlds that the effect when they do meet is discombobulating. That discombobulating effect is of course not a fact about the world, about their inherent incompatibility - the value judgement that the encounter is incongruous or incompatible is an intersubjective one - but it doesn’t emotionally diminish that discombobulating intersubjective valuation. The effect is further compounded too if in response to an aesthetic regarded as unappealing or ugly. Doubly so if there is the dimension of dispossession, the felt feeling of displacement at familiar aesthestics of home and place transmogrified into something that appears conspicuously alien.
The ‘Yookay’ in its birth pangs is a very tonally inconsistent phenomenon. Often a slap-dash blend of incongruous non-sequitur mishmash culture and aesthetic forms - the roadman in the balaclava, puffer jacket and thobe, the old Tudor building adorned with Urdu signage and draped in Palestine flags, Deliveroo riders congregated below a WWI war memorial playing Punjabi music aloud on speakerphone, large populations of Eritreans or Bolivians or Papuans appearing suddenly on the streets of Aberdeen or Aberystwyth etc. Early stage ‘Yookay’ represents a great, undifferentiated throwing together of the world in one place on top of an old and established British culture - whatever its final form it is still something that is very much in the process of being created and consolidated. You have some emerging staples already, the Roadman, the ‘Rubber Dinghy Rapids’ brand of Islam, MLE etc. but those new forms as a whole aren’t yet fully, properly settled. There is no historical weight to our encounters with ‘it’, we are unsure how we are supposed to respond to something so novel and incongruous by any normative standard which is still in so much flux. You are asked to engage with these new fusion forms as serious, authentic cultural expressions but you can’t help but meet those cultural expressions as jarring non-sequiturs. Their incredibly recent historical contingency is inescapable. Often too the new forms are not especially aesthetically ‘pleasing’ which only compounds the incongruity, how dispiriting people find them. “What the hell is going on here? What kind of weird mishmash is this?”
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Of course you can become accustomed to these things over time, they are strange and novel now but they could become less so and far more quotidian and established in the future. They can also appear more strange to Brits than to immigrant diaspora groups, who might already be sentimental and nostalgic about these new forms - particularly where they live in fairly insular communities and have less references for what Historical Britain used to look like or less sentimental attachments to that older idea of Britain. A new aesthetic form that tends to repulse Brits especially when it is accompanied by a strong felt sense of loss might not do so for other groups. See eg, the spread of religious forms like Islam. Where the forms evolve next becomes a tussle between these two kinds of opposing reactions.
A qualification on this emotional response that further clouds our reactions to this novel non-sequitur aesthetic - when I created the ‘Yookay Aesthetics’ page I had expected a reaction to the content but I hadn’t expected the page to grow quite as quickly as it did, for there to be quite as strong a reaction to it as there was. At its core ‘Yookay Aesthetics’ (@MythoYookay) is (and this is my subjective value judgement) a ‘dark comedy’ page and so in its unavoidable in these kinds of curating exercises bias it will tend to prioritise more outrageous or absurd content, though it also has as its remit the aesthetics of the emerging New Britain in all its manifestations whether commonplace or novel in their rarity, ‘good’ or ‘bad’. Admittedly tonally inconsistent in that way, much like the ‘Yookay’ itself. For the record and in that sense, it is not supposed to be an “everything this account posts is bad” account. It is an aesthetics account. There is no commentary because implicit or overt judgements often cloud an unmediated aesthetic response (‘is’ vs ‘ought’) but, still, that hasn’t stopped people attempting to read commentary into it - so I wanted to say a little more about the the nature of the reactions people have had to it.
I coined the term ‘Yookay’ in 2023 (probably you can find earlier distinct uses because it is a fairly intuitive comedy transliteration) and it floated around in memes and posts for about a year before it became more conceptually consolidated in 2024. Again, the page is a satire page but I think there is also some merit to the exercise of just exhibiting the aesthetic because it does constitute a real and growing presence in Britain that is mostly otherwise unexplored but which will continue to gradually redefine more and more of the country.
‘Yookay Aesthetics’ gets three main criticisms, the first is that it places a lot of emphasis on the subject of race, the second is that it is depressing, the third is “actually, this image elicits the opposite response in me to ‘the one you were (the detractor claims) trying to provoke’.” I think the effects the images create that invites these criticisms all stem from a similar place. On the first criticism, because the nature of the change in Britain is inescapably race-based it is difficult for the subject to not in some way be race-related. Some people say, does race really matter? You be the judge. Let me say though that this change is happening because for many the answer is that it does not matter - or they at least think it does not matter. Thinking it does not matter in the abstract without a full understanding of what that change entails and then thinking it does not matter after the fact of the change having happened are of course two meaningfully distinct beliefs. Suffice it to say that either way even if a person wants to insist the change is unremarkable the material nature of the change would in any other set of historical circumstances be considered remarkable - even era defining. I don’t think it is inherently ‘bigoted’ to observe these shifts and the aesthetic changes that accompany them, some people will doubtless disagree though.
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The latter two criticisms in large part stem from the kinds of priors people have. The account itself has followers from many different demographic and political backgrounds, eg nativists as well as migrant diasporas. These groups will tend to react in predictable ways ie “this is depressing” or “this is good actually.” Often the responses can be quite emotional, for many of the reasons mentioned above. Change of this nature is going to be emotionally raw and so the psychological mechanisms behind those responses are fairly intuitive. A particular emotional response to the aesthetic is of course a separate phenomenon to the aesthetic’s actual existence though.
In this way, to my mind (in a strictly dispassionate sense) the most compelling argument against this change if it is made, this Yookayification, has always been at its heart aesthetic and moral. There are other quality of life arguments people make about economics, crime and safety, loss of rights and so on but we can imagine a hypothetical New British State in which those issues were redressed - and then what would the argument against it be? The sense of dispossession, of loss, of your home environment becoming increasingly jarring, alien - coupled as it happens to be with those other attendant losses in quality of life - seems to be the most powerful motivator. It might be a less compelling force in a hypothetical ‘Basically Fine Most Competent Pragmatic New Multicultural Britain’ but the argument from ‘felt loss of place’ and ‘moral unfairness’ against that arrangement are still perhaps the strongest argument you can field, at least on an emotional level.
The important corollary of that here is that the urgency of the felt need to respond to the aesthetic is either something you ‘feel’ or you don’t. You can only rationally argue yourself into a specific view on it to a certain extent - past that point your innate emotional response will do the rest of the heavy lifting for you. Many elements of this aesthetic are a kind of Rorschach test. If you look at these images and they ‘feel’ disparaging in some indiscernible way it is unlikely that the kinds of visual and cultural changes highlighted there as indicative of a trend are going to bother or motivate you in the way they might do for others. “What’s the issue?” Well, for you probably nothing. Equally in that way if you look at these images and feel upset, depressed, frustrated etc. you might make the accusation that the images are implicitly intentionally demoralising or provocative. They might feel gratuitously overwhelmingly because they so directly tap into that sense of growing alienation a person feels, that sense of loss of place. Others still might just feel apathetic, not care either way. Whatever the case, the images are real reflections of the real world, sometimes chosen for some aesthetic quality to be sure but still of the world - the emotional response is to some reified element of the world.
This is again part of the nature of the process, why people have such different reactions to the changes on the basis of totally incommensurable priors. In a sense, whatever the outcome of this historical process of change it won’t particularly matter to people in the more long term future. Very few people have properly historical memories. If you have 500 years of ‘Yookay’ then the descendants of the new country’s ‘founding stock’ will in general not particularly care about the particular cultures that were displaced to create that new country, not just because they would not otherwise exist but because people rarely think in historical terms, understand historical processes, think of themselves as actors within a particular historical milieu. If they do they often do so selectively and in a self-aggrandising way.
For the moment though, the process is raw and immediate and has yet to be settled decisively. Whatever the outcome the encounter is now producing jarring but distinct new aesthetic forms.
High levels of immigration into many western countries are creating new fusion dialects - one of the most distinct is MTE Multicultural Toronto English, an emerging new urban dialect in Toronto Canada. A short thread with examples 🧵