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Lazarus Long Profile picture
@LazarusLong13
May 31, 2023 • 21 tweets • 12 min read • Read on X
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Making the case for the #CorsiRosenthalBox with studies.

A simple thread.
"no U.S. Energy Star certified air cleaners have CADR values (for either tobacco smoke, dust, or pollen) matching the CADR value for the CR Box even on low speed "

On cost? 1/10th.

1019 to 1444 m3/hr CADR.

(600 to 850 ft3/min)

Published here:
tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10… ImageImage
An incredibly thorough study published in February 2023, with all of its authors from @NIOSH.

With universal masking in a 3-ply cotton mask, exposure to the relevant aerosol size is reduced by 88 to 94%, with the #CorsiRosenthalBox.

73% w/ CRBox alone.

sciencedirect.com/science/articl… ImageImage
Very good thread on this study here:

Essentially the same NIOSH team investigated HEPA efficacy.

65% reduction with HEPA alone.

So, at a much cheaper price, the #CorsiRosenthalBox gets better results.

cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/7…
But can HEPAs remove SARS-COV-2 from the air? Yes.

(Would #CorsiRosenthalBox do the same? Yes - faster and cheaper.

Has it been studied specifically for this? No. HEPAs barely have.

Do the same laws of physics apply? Yes.)

journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.11… Image
But can HEPAs really remove SARS-COV-2 from the air?

Yes - in a UK hospital, HEPAs were off. Cov1d was in the air. Turned on. No more CoV1d.

1000 m3/hour CADR.

Remember the first study?

1019 to 1444 m3/ hour for the CR box.

cuh.nhs.uk/news/air-filte…

academic.oup.com/cid/article/75… Image
@MarinaC_Dyb and her fellow authors found a massive reduction in aerosols in OCCUPIED classrooms using the #CorsiRosenthalBox. Also found that ALL of the air went in.

No wonder they have rolled them out to 400 locations.

Study is linked here:
indoorairquality.initiative.uconn.edu/testing-the-ef… Image
Oh for Pete's sake. @elonmusk has just killed another thread.

Let me add these manually.
"Also found that ALL of the air went in" - quoting above to go into a little more detail:

This answers, in a study, the concern that it just moves the air around. That it won't go into the filter.

It does, and this had to be pointed out.
The CDC, of which NIOSH is part of, has officially recommended 5 ACH, minimum, and that DIY Air Cleaners are effective at reducing the risk of transmission of Cov1d.

The #CorsiRosenthalBox is
specifically mentioned as part of that solution.

cdc.gov/coronavirus/20… ImageImageImage
@3M has studied it in their formal lab - and is officially on board:

news.3m.com/2022-02-24-3M-…
The famous UL, Inc testing the safety of the #CorsiRosenthalBox, to make sure it won't catch on fire.

It won't - even if the filters are loaded up.

(The link that is out on Twitter appears to be dead.)

ul.org/library/2988
"Does Using Corsi–Rosenthal Boxes to Mitigate COVID-19 Transmission Also Reduce Indoor Air Concentrations of PFAS and Phthalates?"

Yes.

pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ac… Image
Some have expressed surprise that this was found.

Dr. Corsi explains:

And the rest of your family?

30 case studies- oops, 30 of your stories here, where your family used the #CorsiRi
A thesis - a study, that found 7 PFAs, and exposure to for both dog and human. (@ShellyMBoulder collaborated).
elischolar.library.yale.edu/ysphtdl/2161/ Image
How do we know that dogs are affected? Because it is dogs that get experimented on.

And not to get too personal, but my dog has stage 4 chronic kidney disease. CKD can be caused by PFAs.

Did I do that? Or at least not prevent it? A lot of

wunc.org/health/2021-05… Image
years with no air filtration.

But hey - she is 15 years old, and it could be just old age.

In any event, I don't want to go into any more detail, but now I know better.

But besides PFAs, dogs can catch Cov1d.

As can cats.

In fact, from the study, we should see our cat as part of our family regarding virus transmission.

Can a cat or dog wear a mask?

Yes, with training.

But what if you could reduce their risk of catching Cov1d without all that? Image
And the risk to the rest of your family?

30 case studies- oops, 30 of your stories here, where your family used the #CorsiRosenthalBox as the centerpiece of your family pandemic prevention protocol.

And it worked.

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Dec 31, 2024
Sara Anne Willette's visualization tool - is not a list. It is a visual representation of a group of accounts, so that she can remove herself from them.

It uses only publicly facing data, available per the X TOS, and the API, not scraping.

IT WILL NOT EFFECT YOU AT ALL. Image
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There are some accounts 👇 and their followers that SHE JUST WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH.

It is her choice to remove herself from any account she wants.

The actual data?

✔️ account creation date
✔️ the username of the account,
✔️ who they follow.

All obtained legally per TOS. The list. Ooo so scary. You all are acting like high school kids.
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The LOCATION that you saw in the blurry used to get you all fired up!?

Picked up from the front page of the profile, but NOT USED.

I live in Temporarily Enabled, USA - but it is not my physical location.

That's it.

Some additional thoughts, from me, not Sara. Not using location
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Dec 23, 2024
Ozone. A pollutant no matter where it is - outdoors or indoors.

#DYK that indoor inhalation is 25% to 60% of total intake? Per Weschler?

iaqscience.lbl.gov/increases-ozone

#DYK that MOST indoor ozone comes from OUTDOORS? Per Weschler?

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC16…

Truly worried?

🧵 Accounting for the differences between indoor and outdoor air ozone concentrations, Weschler [6] has estimated that indoor exposures to ozone are typically 45% to 75% of total exposures. Because breathing rates are lower when people are indoors, the indoor inhalation intake of ozone is typically 25% to 60% of total ozone intake. These estimates may be low for the population most affected by ozone—infants, the elderly, and those with respiratory and cardiovascular disease. Consequently, if there is no threshold concentration for the health effects of ozone, or if the threshold is low, roughl...
Although there are indoor sources of ozone, in most buildings indoor ozone has been transported from outdoors (Weschler 2000). Indoor ozone concentrations track outdoor concentrations with a slight time lag that depends on the air exchange rate. Ozone is removed by indoor surfaces as well as by gas-phase reactions, and hence, indoor concentrations tend to be smaller than co-occurring outdoor levels.
If you are TRULY worried, you should be focused on eliminating ozone, right?

You would be slipping into people's threads and sharing these cheap DIY activated carbon builds, right?

Because if you are TRULY concerned about ozone, you would not be slipping into threads of people showing pictures of their new FAR-UVC Torches - for any other reason, but to share the good word that the miniscule ozone generated could be eliminated.

VIRUS and OZONE free air.
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Dec 21, 2024
ACH ACPH - Air Exchanges per Hour.

An important topic since way before 2020, but given fresh vigor with our collective interest in clean air. Not just disease free air, but VOC, PFA, microplastic, mold, UFP, PM 1, PM 2.5, etc.

The outside air will infiltrate inside.

🧵
That ☝️picture is not typical.

Typical ACH - there can be general estimates, but every house is different. You can determine your own, as shown by @jljcolorado with help 👇👇. Jump to the section shown 👇.

medium.com/@jjose_19945/h…

The estimator is here
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u… How to estimate the ventilation rate in practice
I am grateful for input and suggestions on this topic from Andy Persily, Shelly Miller, Dustin Poppendiek, Ty Newell, Rich Corsi, Bill Bahnfleth, and Jeff Siegel.
The thread about that article is here. Some excellent discussion on it by some very good scientists, including those Dr. Jimenez acknowledges. Those folks are also on Xitter.

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Dec 21, 2024
Ozone. FAR-UVC. GUV222.

New preprint.

Room with 1.3 ACH (1.3 h-1) (like your home).

1 lamp was good enough to disinfect room. Produced "negligible" ozone. -0.62 ±0.03 ppb

Even with 4x the needed strength? 6.98 ±0.24 ppb. -0.62 ±0.03
We refer to this room as “Room A.” Room A has no window, and is connected via a door to a large, open plan lounge area in the office suite. This Lounge space was used for baseline measurements. The door between Room A and the Lounge was closed during experiments. The air exchange rate in Room A was measured using the CO2 tracer method [33] with portable CO2 sensors (Aranet4) to be 1.3 h-1 (Supplementary Information). Room A and the lounge are carpeted. Room A is equipped with a conference table, a small wooden desk, and chairs. It also has room lighting and a wall-mounted computer monitor. ...
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The conclusion? One lamp does not impact the air quality.

With 4 times OVERKILL.

Under 10 ppb. Secondary organic aerosols (SOA)? minor increases in particulate matter (16% increase particulate matter, 10 % increase in particle number count). We have observed the effects of far-UVC on indoor ozone and particulate matter under conditions of real-world application in a small conference room with low ventilation. We find that a single Lumenizer 300 far-UVC lamp, specified by the manufacturer to be sufficient for disinfection of the space, does not negatively impact indoor air quality through net generation of O3 or PM under the conditions of our experiment. Far-UVC may be a valuable component of a multilayer approach to reduce the risk of transmission of respiratory viruses, used in combination with ventilation and other interventi...
This was not Nukit's lamp.

But it was the same wavelength.



Context.... chemrxiv.org/engage/chemrxi…The far-UVC average fluence used for the lower-intensity (single lamp) experiments in this study was 0.2 μW cm-2. According to the manufacturer, one lamp is recommended for disinfection of a room the size of Room A. The modelled average fluence and irradiance values are consistent with conditions observed by Eadie et al. in a chamber study to reduce airborne pathogens (S. aureus) by 92% or more [16]. Under these conditions, we did not measure significant changes in ozone level or particulate matter in Room A, despite the relatively low ventilation conditions in the room
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Dec 20, 2024
Not sure what is going on with @HealthcareGlob1 - they sure seem to have it out for @NukitToBeSure.

They blocked me after I pointed out that they were incorrect. I could care less about being blocked.

I do care they did not address the issues I raised. 🧵
They retweeted this tweet from DisabledDoctor, which has numerous issues.

1. FARUVC has been safely
& extensively tested on the eyes. There are a rather large number of studies on the topic.

2. FARUVC will not cause AQ issues, besides a Yup. Not even considering the fact that she recommends using her far-UV devices in ways that are possibly unsafe (pointed at face as they are untested on eyes and in poorly ventilated indoor spaces where it is likely it will cause air quality issues leading to or exacerbating respiratory problems). She's harming vulnerable people while profiting off of them and she seems to give no fucks while somehow managing to get people to aggressively support her when she is (fairly) criticized. She's a master manipulator 8:08 AM 11 Sep 29, 2024 7,975 Views
negligible amount of ozone.

But that's not me saying that, but the studies. Two studies in well sealed rooms - about 5 parts per billion, 5 ppb.

If you are in a well sealed room, you would want that window cracked, anyway, right?

If not, and you are In summary, the two published measurements of far-UVC associated ozone in real-world settings, both around 5 ppb, are likely to be upper limits in terms of real-life far-UVC usage; this is both because of the far-UVC doses used in the studies, but also because both rooms were comparatively well sealed (respectively 0.4 and 1.4 ACH, see Table 1), whereas far-UVC will predominantly be used in public indoor spaces, which typically feature higher air-exchange rates.18 Overall it is reasonable to assume that far-UVC-associated ozone levels in real-life settings are extremely unlikely to exceed 1...
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Dec 15, 2024
Got HEPAs and or a #CorsiRosenthalBox and still have VOC's?

(New furniture, left over smoke damage, odor, etc)

Welcome to @TheFandelier Quick VOC BUILD!

Goal below.
Slap filter on counter.
Slap fan on filter.
Slap USB adapter on fan.
Go.

/1 TruSens DuPont Odor & VOC Filter with True HEPA for Z-3000 TruSens Air Purifier with SilverStone fan.
THE FILTER.

TruSens DuPont Odor & VOC Filter with True HEPA for Z-3000 TruSens Air Purifier

This filter has more carbon than the others from this brand.

"The filter comes w/foam surrounds that make a seal w table and fan."

UPC is 038576802810

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the Odor & VOC carbon drum has 3 layers of carbon
The link above will go dead eventually - that's why I am listing the full name above, so you can search for it.

THE FAN.

Silveratone AP183 140cfm is the one you want. The Silverstone AP 180mm is a great choice for the Maxx Core. It comes in a few flavors with varying price and cfm. They are all very sturdy. AP181 100cfm AP182 167cfm AP183 140cfm AP184 143cfm The 181 is very much slower than the others/cheapest. Get 183 if poss best bang/$
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