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A lot of the internet seems to think ancient warriors were ripped like the actors in "300". Ancient Greeks actually thought bulked-up athletes made useless warriors: sluggish, indulgent, dependent on strict diets, and unable to bear toil and deprivation
This is related to the misconception that an ancient warrior would mostly be doing close combat all day (like the comment on Marv in Sin City, "He'd be right at home on some ancient battlefield, swingin' an axe into somebody's face"). In reality? Marching, cooking, keeping watch
...digging ditches (take a shot!), building fieldworks, maintaining equipment, building siege machines, and more marching and keeping watch. "Work hard and run risks," as the veteran Xenophon summed up the life.
What do you need for this life? Endurance, stamina, agility, and a willingness to go without food, drink, shelter, and sleep, as needed.

What you don't need (or at least not often enough for it to matter very much) is raw strength or skill with a sword

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Jun 11
Yesterday my thread about ancient warriors' bodies was RT'ed w/ fairly reasonable criticism. Since then I have been inundated with abuse from literal fascists for daring to challenge their ideas about ancient Greece.

For any adults in the room here are the receipts🧵 Image
Ancient Greek men obv. admired strength, venerated athletes & praised those who trained their bodies. But since the Archaic period there was tension between the needs of games and war. Athletes overspecialised & lost touch with practicality; they neglected what really mattered.
As the Spartan poet Tyrtaios says (fr. 12):

"I would not mention or take account of a man for his prowess in running or wrestling, not even if he had the size and strength of the Cyclopes (...) For no man is good in war unless he can endure the sight of blody slaughter..."
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Jul 5, 2021
I did a tweet earlier about the Corinthian War and no one asked me to elaborate but I will anyway because it's the wildest war you've never heard of. It has the largest hoplite battle in history and it ends with Persia winning the Persian Wars.

*record scratch*

Strap innnnn 🧵
A little earlier (404 BC) the Spartans secured Persian funding to build a fleet and defeat the Athenians. They claimed they were fighting the war to liberate the Greeks from Athenian imperialism but instead they just took over the empire.
Fantastic plan
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May 19, 2021
I have been asked for my thoughts on the 'battle' part of @BretDevereaux' wildly successful blog series on the myth of Sparta. With his permission, I shall now proceed to apply pedantry to his pedantry. 1/help
acoup.blog/2019/09/20/col…
I should point out first of all that this series is really good overall. It's well-read, incisive and funny. It's really helpful to see someone make an informed assault on a massive pop-history chimera. Kudos &c.

But.

2/
Of course, our main disagreement is one of interpretation: BD favours the 'orthodoxy' on hoplites. Yes, when he says in the blog there are a handful of people who care - that's me! I'm a handful.

(I phrased that wrong.)

3/ Image
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Sep 2, 2020
The myth of Thermopylai and the Greek resistance is built on some... strange ideas about the Persians and their armies.

Don't worry though, @reeshistory and I are here to clear some stuff up.

1/many
Our view on Persia is weird. It was the largest empire the world had ever seen. Its king claimed to rule the whole planet. But our best sources for it are Greek.

Imagine if we knew Rome mostly through clay tablets from Babylon.

2/
But for the Greeks this was not some foreboding new presence in the East. By 480 they'd seen Great Kings come and go. Greeks had been living under Persian rule for generations. Mingling, learning the language, trading goods, skills and ideas.

With that in mind... 3/
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Aug 30, 2020
2499 years ago, approximately #OTD, the pass at Thermopylai in Central Greece became the site of one of the most famous land battles in history.

You've probably heard a bunch of tall tales about it. @reeshistory and I are here to tell it a little differently.

1/lots
It was a heroic struggle and a moral victory for the Greeks: 300 Spartans gave their lives for the Greek cause, killing innumerable enemies and teaching the arrogant Persians to fear the indomitable hoplite phalanx. Right?

RIGHT???

Wrong.

2/
"300 Spartans"? Nope. There were 1000 Spartans. Probably 300 of them were full Spartan citizens, the rest perioikoi (freeborn non-citizens). There were also an unknown number of helots (possibly thousands).

Here's what we know about numbers: badancient.com/claims/did-300…

3/
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Jun 2, 2020
Being on the academic job market for more than 5 years has taught me an important lesson, which was driven home for me again yesterday, and which I'll share in case it may be helpful. It runs counter to all received wisdom, and and it is simply this:

Nothing you do matters.
Only 2 things determine whether you will get a particular job or not, AND YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER EITHER OF THEM:

- Does the department need teaching in your specific subfield?
- Does the department like you?

Nothing else meaningfully affects your chances.
To put it another way: the choice is made on the basis of who you ARE (which subfield? learned where and with whom? what do you bring to the dept?) not what you DO (publications, networking, citizenship, outreach). The latter cannot change the former.
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