Quite apart from the fact this started as “preferred” and it’s now pivoting to “required”, I will not be manipulated into playing someone else’s pretend fantasy about themselves because they demand it.
It’s lying. It’s playing into someone else’s fantasy. And it’s not “seeing a whole person” it’s pretending that person is something they are not, and have absolutely zero right to claim.
Refusal to say something cannot be harassment. If this idea comes to the U.K. I will be on the streets defending our rights to not have speech compelled.
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@GNQ__ 🙄 what is it with people in the US apparently insisting on gay being a choice/abuse? Lots of kids sadly get abused just look at the testimony of women… and yet most people remain straight. Meanwhile I definitely wasn’t abused nor did I even know about anal at 14…
@GNQ__ Or porn. The *weight* of evidence points to in most cases homosexuality arising from multiple biological pathways of development. Rather like personality traits. You can’t make someone’s personality what you want. Parents know this well.
@GNQ__ I’m going to bookmark my own short thread on the most plausible origins of homosexuality. Oh and if anyone says it’s a choice I’m going to assume they are bisexual.
What i would like to say is actually that first bit of the video is really important. If you use wrong sex pronouns as Helen says - things start to not make sense, because sex matters. I also find it offensive if a person refers to a man as “she” 1/
And yes it’s my offence. I have my reasons, I’m happy to explain them
I understand the frustration of being corrected and I’m not “outraged” by Helen’s desire to tell people to just *stop* when they do that. I get frustrated with ppl ever day! Especially when they are right 2/
First, it’s just “offence”. People will correct you. It feels like coercion when they do that but I might suggest they are bluntly pointing at an incoherency/inconsistency in your head. Probably why people get frustrated. 3/
And this is what education should be about. Especially for gay men. I was fortunate (?) to have every theory thrown at me in my youth. I grew up with it.
1- being gay doesn’t predispose you to anything. Other than finding men hot.
2- how you live your life and what you decide to do is always on you and not the result of “urges” 🙄😬
3- a gay relationship can be entirely fulfilling.
@stormrobinson@theneonrequiem I know the theories on “causeS” (because if there’s only one I’ll eat my hat) - but I also know that being gay isn’t a detriment. It doesn’t matter how it’s caused nor is there any reason to prevent it so that prejudiced people can be happy.
So when I say homophobia reaches a minimum amongst “GC” and sex realists, I’m particularly disappointed when I see it coming from gay and bisexual people.
I long for the day when being same sex attracted is not considered a problem to be fixed, cured - or prevented. 1/
It is not a disorder. This was established in Britain as long ago as 1957 in the Wolfenden report.
Seeing everything through the lens of suburban 2.4 (or 1.8?) kids and a dog is regressive thinking. I know that’s what’s going on 2/
For the longest time I also longed for the perfect family life that I had been sold as the ideal, and was angry at being gay. Not self loathing just annoyed.
But then I realised the whole point of a social species doesn’t revolve around individual procreation but the group 3/
I am in a long term relationship. I do not have significant trauma, neglect or abuse in my past.
There is scientific evidence for a biological predisposition for homosexuality. Evolution would not permit sexual orientation to be dependent on environment. 1/
“Why am I gay” is an academic discussion. “Why do gay people struggle with relationships sometimes” - is a sociological discussion.
I know I am exclusively attracted to the same sex, and it’s not a problem. THAT is the key argument. 2/
It is not a problem. I am not unsatisfied or in need of help. If my homosexuality is a result of falling on my head age 3 - it still doesn’t matter, because it doesn’t matter.
I’m happy. I’m not doing myself, others or society harm by having gay sex or relationships. 3/
Some people didn’t seem to get what I was saying here and some are now apparently frustrated, think I am naive or apologising for things people do because I said they “care”.
What I am saying is that people who have an ideology that I think is harmful or passionately disagree with - are not all malevolent or want people to suffer.
I used to be a TRA. Caring about people was what motivated me. 2/
And this is relevant to all ideologies that do harm. Those who are activists for fame/attention/grift - will move on or disappear. Those who are indoctrinated and care - *and will not listen* are the most dangerous and should not be underestimated. 3/