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We are going to do another. It's not a 2007/2008 thread.

1. 2007 had 4 million active listings 🫑 Image
2. We had massive credit stress build-up in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. All before the job loss recession in 2008 Image
3. We already had the sales crash, and we have gotten to historically low levels with total inventory levels not getting back to 2019 levels Image
Question is can you have a massive price crash with stable demand and low inventory? Image
It's crazy to think, but the active listings inventory is weeks away from printing negative year-over-year data 🀨 Image
Part of the issue we have is new listing housing data. In 2021 and 2022 new listing data was trending at all-time lows. Even when we had 3% mortgage rates.
2023 it created a brand new all-time low data set Image
Key:
1- Credit channels run inventory channels
2- Homeowners are doing fine; they have low total debt cost vs. their total wages
3- Distress selling is minimal today
With some clarity of 2022/2023 data, this podcast will be an educational tutorial.
housingwire.com/podcast/logan-…
@KellyCNBC If anyone says 2007/2008 housing, hopefully, the data above will make it clear that it isn't Image
Unlike the NAR data, which is around 1,040,000 this year, we track the live weekly active & new listings data. We are currently at 443,000 single-family homes as of last week.
That's more than last year, but last year home sales collapsed; now it's just stabilized, nothing more. Image
Here is the latest fresh single family listing data with some historical context Image
Suppose you want to use the NAR data for reference. Historically we are between 2-2.5 million. The peak in 2007 was over 4,000,000 when sales crashed back then, currently at 1,040,000.

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Jun 15
When rates fall, it has never created more active listings one time post-2010. Not once πŸ«‘πŸ˜‰
It creates more demand, but it has never created more inventory
If I had one year of data to show this to be the case I would say there is shot Image
Trust the data β˜ΊοΈπŸ™ŒπŸ½
Year over year active inventory is higher this year but as demand stabilized it’s running into hard comps and will soon be negative year over Image
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Jun 15
Fixed debt cost, rising wages, the best hedge against inflation on planet Earth.
A 30-year mortgage 🫑 Image
When you have the best hedge on planet Earth on your books, you don't traditionally sell to be homeless when employed.
Maybe it's the Gotham in me, but I always thought that was an odd premise 😎
Remember, credit channels! Image
Remember, homeowners don't look at their homes like stock traders do. They don't sell their home, take the $, lose that payment, and invest it for a risk-free 5% return.
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Jun 14
πŸͺ΅πŸͺš Input cost fell ☺️ Lumber vs. Housing 2023 call failed πŸͺ“ for the right reason. Forward data started to get better on November 9th video below will explain the rest Image
Reading is a good thing, ☺️✌️🏽😁
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Jun 14
If we are talking only about June 14th, 2022 - June 14th 2023 Everything changed November 9th, 2022 🫑
If you want a educational tutorial on how to properly track weekly forward-looking , this is what we do
housingwire.com/podcast/logan-…
So you do not have this response eight months after ✌️🏽😁😏✊🏽 Image
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Jun 14
Keeping rates where the 3,6 & 12 months core PCE was always a lie; they want one thing, break labor and wages! 🫑
When boomers are talking about the 1970's inflation, and they're Fed members it's only one outcome folks
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