2. We had massive credit stress build-up in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. All before the job loss recession in 2008
3. We already had the sales crash, and we have gotten to historically low levels with total inventory levels not getting back to 2019 levels
Question is can you have a massive price crash with stable demand and low inventory?
It's crazy to think, but the active listings inventory is weeks away from printing negative year-over-year data π€¨
Part of the issue we have is new listing housing data. In 2021 and 2022 new listing data was trending at all-time lows. Even when we had 3% mortgage rates.
2023 it created a brand new all-time low data set
Key: 1- Credit channels run inventory channels 2- Homeowners are doing fine; they have low total debt cost vs. their total wages 3- Distress selling is minimal today
With some clarity of 2022/2023 data, this podcast will be an educational tutorial. housingwire.com/podcast/logan-β¦
@KellyCNBC If anyone says 2007/2008 housing, hopefully, the data above will make it clear that it isn't
Unlike the NAR data, which is around 1,040,000 this year, we track the live weekly active & new listings data. We are currently at 443,000 single-family homes as of last week.
That's more than last year, but last year home sales collapsed; now it's just stabilized, nothing more.
Here is the latest fresh single family listing data with some historical context
Suppose you want to use the NAR data for reference. Historically we are between 2-2.5 million. The peak in 2007 was over 4,000,000 when sales crashed back then, currently at 1,040,000.
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When rates fall, it has never created more active listings one time post-2010. Not once π«‘π
It creates more demand, but it has never created more inventory
If I had one year of data to show this to be the case I would say there is shot
When you have the best hedge on planet Earth on your books, you don't traditionally sell to be homeless when employed.
Maybe it's the Gotham in me, but I always thought that was an odd premise π
Remember, credit channels!
Remember, homeowners don't look at their homes like stock traders do. They don't sell their home, take the $, lose that payment, and invest it for a risk-free 5% return.
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πͺ΅πͺ Input cost fell βΊοΈ Lumber vs. Housing 2023 call failed πͺ for the right reason. Forward data started to get better on November 9th video below will explain the rest