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the need for political groups to denigrate or idealize the past is an interesting phenomenon that isnt discussed with sufficient care i think

this is a really dreadful example of bad behavior but its helpful in highlighting how dumb this can make people and in which ways
for example there were a lot of polio cases in the early 1950s yeah

if i had to guess the spike may have been related to the baby boom

but the most notable thing about polio in the era was that the vaccine was released *into the public domain* in 1955

this was miraculous
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i havent had much success in finding data regarding womens mental health in the 1950s

s*icide figures might be most reliable as an indicator but unlike homicides there are more plausible issues here

a further issue is that these are not age adjusted, which matters

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what is interesting is that mens suicide rates were as usual higher, but possibly noticably higher in the 50s

its curious to me that the dumb political cartoon ignores what I somewhat suspect was the most widespread mental health issue in the 50s that no one talks abt, PTSD
I dont have any proof of this but it seems likely reasonable to expect it may have been a problem, arguments about social reception and appreciation of warriors like those discussed in Sebastian Junger's _Tribe_ notwithstanding

I also have an anecdote
my great uncle was a sniper in Europe. reputedly a capable one. later in life he was an exceptional golfer.

when he demobilized he lived in a house down the street from his parents and for years would wake up in the middle of the night to run to his mother, screaming, to be held
so anyway thats probably under-discussed as a source of quiet misery for men in the 50s
no easy data on antigay sentiment

its plausible it was historically high though

arrests by entrapment were routine at least in public venues in major cities (and perhaps it would have been relatively difficult to meet in other circumstances, idk)
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i dont know what life was actually like for gay men in the 1950s. obviously in a lot of ways "not great" but the closet was sometimes a polite mutual fiction

eg: my extended family was well aware that another of my great uncles was gay. they remained close his whole life
a related matter is that the country was at least in some ways relatively relaxed about transgender people

when Christine Jorgensen's reassignment surgery was announced in 1952 it was billed as a Miracle of Science and the Army said, yeah, ok, we'll change your name, no prob


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the notion that american women "werent allowed" to go to college in the 1950s is risible

my maternal grandmother, born in the _1920s_, was a college-educated medical laboratory technician

this was in no way novel. america has had womens colleges for nearly 200 years
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on the point regarding molestation i frankly have no idea how to obtain data on this matter and i honestly would prefer not to look
my point is not that everything in the 1950s america was good or bad, and i hope ive not tried to covey either absurd extreme

if i had to _guess_ id say it was one of the strangest times in american history
yes we had just conquered half the world and we were suddenly richer than any people in history had ever been

but wed only half made it through two decades of war and poverty and revolution--korea itself was 1950-1953!

there were soviet spies everywhere, and they had the Bomb
images like the one that OP defaced were ads, right. they were kitsch

but you can learn alot from kitsch as ive said before
there are two deadly mistakes you can make looking at images like these

the first is to imagine that they were representative rather than aspirational; that things ever really were so uncomplicated


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the second and in my opinion more corrosive error is to perceive the difference between the idealized images and an often rough reality, then go further to refuse not only the possibility of approaching the ideal; but further still denying its value, were it somehow attained
the denial of the possibility or value of things good and transcendent is a sickness of the spirit

im sorry (not sorry) to be a mystic about this but its the most efficient means of conveying the mentality involved in nihilist aesthetics
this is an intermittent occurrence in culture but it seems to me that its reached a kind of recent zenith

@Vert_Noel and @keyofgeo pointed me at this @SMBCComics strip after id complained in verse about a parallel trend in written english

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i guess the point of this thread is that i am once again asking you to eschew luciferian despair and the ensuing embrace of hell for fear that you might not attain some heaven Image
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somewhere along the way i think maybe what happened was, eliezer started believing everything he thought

easy pitfall as you age, probably. IME when you spend enough time thinking, certain things crystalize and you get less patient about the process

happens to everyone prolly
the vital urge to say "ok, how is this wrong" starts to fade as you get older, because you've played that game so many times that it gets tiresome and you start to think you know what that room holds

usually you're right, but it's an easy way to get stuck
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i regard this as a colossal win

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~$15, BOGO

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additional context

america probably has the most productive agricultural land on earth not regularly subjected to wars of extermination Image
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"why are these soils good" because theyre basically steppes but with rain Image
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fyi trump ppl

the reason that nerds are unhappy about trump firing federal reserve people isnt because they particularly like those specific people

issue is that it makes the fed look beholden to the executive and this is a very bad outcome for economic stability
the fed hasnt covered itself in glory lately for sure but the counterfactual where its progressively and openly politicized is pretty much just a world of hyperinflation and impoverishment because thats a side effect of how unstable governments use politicized central banks
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what one-shotted you?

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everyone will give boomers and millennials shit about the social justice and narcissism, and rightly so. but the motherfuckers who tricked me into nearly ruining my life are genx
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