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๐Ÿƒ The Offshore Wind Megathread ๐Ÿƒ

How many times have you seen on TV or read on Twitter that wind power is cheap and that's where the Government should focus its efforts?

Let's have a look at why that isn't remotely true.

#windenergy #greenenergy #renewables Image
@BrknMan @aDissentient @7Kiwi MW not GW, it's late.
@BrknMan @aDissentient @7Kiwi I will say its possible for outliers. HR3 is a shallow, near shore farm and it was built before turbine costs shot up.

That's not the trend were seeing in the UK.
@halhod Though not covered here there are many that dispute it's greener credentials also
There are 35 tweets in this thread. Buggy Twitter doesn't always show them all in line, sometimes I see to 27, sometimes 30. You have to click on the last you can see to get the rest.

I notice the view counts for the later ones are much lower.
@halhod Also capex is 60-70% of the levelised cost and anything built recently is going to be 38% more expensive than pre 2021 just due to increased turbine costs.
@paterson_vm @fergustp Safe
@aDissentient @peterbatt Also there's the inconvenient fact that the IPCC says they are getting more expensive and why.

The global drop from 15 to 20 is due to a raft of near shore, shallow Chinese projects. It's not a true global trend.
@aDissentient @peterbatt Here's the study.

Its up to 2019 I think and the costs fall within both Hughes and Montford own estimates.

sciencedirect.com/science/articlโ€ฆ
@peterbatt @fergustp @aDissentient Hughes, Montford, the Science Direct study I sent you and the IPCC all agree offshore wind is increasing in price.

There is only one person with a case of denialism here Peter.
@peterbatt @fergustp @aDissentient Let's make this easy.

Show me anything that says the costs of offshore wind are falling that doesn't include CfD bid prices.
@peterbatt @MingleDandy @fergustp @aDissentient And would save everyone hundreds of pounds a month, at least ยฃ400, and thousands over the coming years.
@peterbatt @MingleDandy @fergustp @aDissentient You started off your responses by saying that we should ignore such people. So maybe you should?

And the article you said contains science? It's arguments in order are,

1. It's really more than 1% (you can say that about everyone, in which case it's still 1%).
@peterbatt @MingleDandy @fergustp @aDissentient 2. 1% is actually big (It's not)

3. History matters (not to future planning it doesn't)

4. We are influencial (we can be influencial without crippling ourselves).

5. China is actually great (lol)

Zero science.
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Oct 27
I'm very tired of seeing this fake map made for morons. So I made a more accurate version that reflects reality.

First you can see Palestine never existed. It was part of Ottoman Syria for 400 years before the British and covered 3 different administrative districts. Image
Then in the 2nd map from 1920 to 1946 there were no "Jewish Settlements" it was just British Mandatory Palestine. Some Jewish people lived there, some ethnic Syrians, some Jordanians, some Lebanese, some Egyptians and some native Bedouin tribes.
The 3rd map shows the UN plan in 1947 with vast swathes of White without mentioning that the Orange section shown here was desert. Israelis have learned over time to manage this land and have some towns there but it's still largely uninhabited.
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Oct 20
1โƒฃ There is no bigger lie than Palestinians are an oppressed people and it's all Israel's fault.

They may be oppressed, but it's largely their own fault.

A Dummies Guide I put together as I was a Dummy until recently. Image
2โƒฃFirstly, there is no Palestine. The name did not exist until Roman occupation when after the defeats of the Jews they renamed Judea as Paleastina. When the Ottoman empire ruled it the whole area was Ottoman Syria.

It wasn't until the British Mandate that the state was created.
3โƒฃ Most of the people now considered Palestinians are descendents of immigrants from Syria, Egypt and Lebanon that came to work during Ottoman rule or the British Mandate.

Yet, it is Jews that are accused of "colonising" the land. Despite it being their ancestral homeland.
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Aug 2
1โƒฃ This is the clip that most enraged me on the BBC's heatpump show last night.

It's starts off by shitting on SMR costs. The whole point of SMR is they have a very good idea of costs from building modular reactors for defense.

But it's the Hinkley lies that got me.
2โƒฃ The program spent enormous amount of time talking about how onshore wind was the cheapest form of electricity. No mention of subsidies. No mention of balancing costs.

But when it gets to nuclear it's being "subsidised by ยฃ19bn".

Pure nonsense.
3โƒฃ This comes from news stories at the time such as the one below.

The "subsidy" was the strike price the Gov agreed to pay above the gas prices in 2015 over 35 years.

Of course, gas prices are now far higher so there is no "subsidy".

theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nโ€ฆ
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Jul 20
There's some rumours floating around today that the temperatures being reported on the news are not the traditional air temperatures we have always seen, but the much hotter ground temps.

I need to look into it more, but this would be a huge deception if true.
Reports like below seem to suggest that the European Space Agency has been providing ground temps and that is why they do not match the Weather station temps in the tweets above.

Needs more investigating.

Tweets such as this show the temps in weather apps are nowhere near the reported news temps.

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Jul 8
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐——๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ผ๐—น๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ช๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐— ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง

There has been much on Twitter recently about water privatisation in England and how everything would be so much better without the evils of capitalism.

But how true is that?
1โƒฃ For over 20 years water has been devolved. In this thread we're going to take a look at a number of available metrics to rank & compare each nation.

๐Ÿ”ถSewage monitoring and hours per head
๐Ÿ”ถBathing water quality
๐Ÿ”ถDrinking water quality
๐Ÿ”ถAverage bills
๐Ÿ”ถLeaks per head
2โƒฃ Personally, I do not care if water is state run or privatised. I only care about the outcomes of how it is run. Is pollution down? Is Water quality better? Is it more reliable? Cheaper? And so on.

Is privatised better or worse?

Thanks to Tony Blair we can easily compare.
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May 24
A ๐Ÿงต on how our biases and lack of knowledge compound misinformation and re-enforce incorrect views.

The ๐ŸŒŠ๐— ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ฎ ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐ŸŒŠ from last week led me to some interesting discussions and John West has been kind enough to agree to me using one of his own as a reference.
1๏ธโƒฃ John is a moderate centre left guy and if you follow me and want to stretch your bubble he's worth a follow.

On Sunday John made a reasonable statement querying if something is a lie or not. This leads to a goldmine of misinformation.

2๏ธโƒฃ Sorry @JohnWest_JAWS as when I started writing this I noticed your tweet was a bit off. Coffey said "93% excellent or good". Not excellent. So it didn't get off to the best starts on the accuracy front!
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