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[1]Looking to the future of Far-UVC
Catherine Noakes, University of Leeds
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[2]written in direct response to the conference (and during the conference) reminder: COVID has caused enormous caseload and death and pre COVID lower respiratory infection was already #4 cause of worldwide death.
[3] This is a huge health challenge worldwide
three vectors for air and infection: communicable diseases( TB measles, flu), opportunistic pathogens (aspergillusm, NTMs, etc), airborne role in other infections (mrsa, c diff, norovirus)
[4] This is part of a much bigger picture of air and building concerns. considerations include air pollution, building regulations, noise, security, comfort, cost of space, temp, drafts, environment vs other investments, sustainability
[5] In UK, royal academy of engineering investigated messaging, mitigation, and planning in response to pandemic. Including focus grouping and working grouping "infection resilient environment" guidelines
commissioned study of cost effectiveness of better (safer) air
[6] Examining ventilation: huge benefit in community buildings, also clear benefit in commercial benefit
Ok let's talk about the future and far-uv. does it work? is it safe?
[7] Many ways to understand far uv: lab studies, eye and skin studies, controlled experimental studies, modelling, and real world data. One place to focus this understanding is inactivation rates: on surfaces, in air,different container/surface/chamber, as designed and/or modeled
[8] Further needs in inactivation rate research: how do we compare between test rigs? assays? lamps? microorganisms? suspension fluids? aerosol sizes? temperature? humidity?what are the fundamental mechanism explaining different inactivation characteristics
[9] Time for room scale . closer to "real world" inactivation. Potential to look at lamp position ventilation, etc. Two ways to do it
Steady State: Measure what the long term rates of bacteria/virus
Decay Test: Measure short term changes, but hard to because of timing.
[10] Decay test for some EPA type tests, but also have to do control and measure natural decay rate.
Only two room experiments HK group and Leeds group
[11] Differences in inactivation?
Eadie et al. got 10x the expected rate? Why? Both tests using "normal" air show higher rates. Is that why? Not sure at the moment.
[12] Lots we don't know and complexities.
specialist biological facilities. Very limited data so far. some viruses are hard to work with and get to high enough concentration to measure.
[13] Modelling really hard too.
Ideal vs realistic, non-steady state conditions in real-life(people, doors, weather)
How do you merge it all, it's complex and how do you validate? Small scale chambers help close
[14] Complexity of Real People Breathing:
Everyone breathes different, different height, different conditions, particle sizes. Very complex and not currently captured to-date in any models.
[15] What do we need from the real world?
Bioburden as part of the cost benefit analysis. Characterizing robustness and maintenance needs of devices. UK primary school study, looking at HEPA filters and upper room UV in 30 primary schools.
[16] Outputs are illness, absence, IAQ,
evaluating effectiveness and practicality
results are unpublished but promising!
[17] Health risks vs health benefits:
Potential to reduce exposure to pathogens and infection which can break transmission chain, control hugely on populational level.
Application example: healthcare stay (patient)
-HAI happening a lot, short duration to IAQ minimal
[18]Staff
Shorter daily exposure but chronic
air chemistry could be significant if poorly ventilated, but COVID risk/infection risk is quite high.
Must consider the trade offs!
[19] Long COVID is part of this equation. Need to estimate by exposure, cost benefit, demographic, long term concerns. Bigger Picture: climate change has changed disease, building needs, air awareness
[20] All air cleaning has pros and cons.
HEPA filters are easy, safe, an grab microbes and particles, present issues of noise, space, removal,
upper room 254: safe, good inactivation, quiet. inappropriate in some spaces, some chemistry issues
[21] Ionization: quiet, slightly unknown, some chemistry concerns 222: unobtrusive, quiet, effective, need more efficacy/chemistry examination
must think about this in the context of optimized applications.
[22] 222 presents the opportunity for major reduction is exposures/case numbers without increased energy costs, etc. Are we ready to produce guidance? unsure, but we are ready to say more about it, more publicly
more data needed for size concerns, implementation, installation

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Jun 16
[1]How it goes forward: A blueprint for communication
with the public about GUV
Kathleen McPhaul, University of Maryland
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[2] (First shout to Balvi for the support on this one! (

Going to address health literacy. The context is the extreme importance of getting the messaging right and letting this space make the change it can
[3] Examples of health messaging that went off track from a public health messaging perspective:
mask effectiveness: they work, they worked, that message was missed. Vaccinations work, but the term "break through" diminished (as opposed to "saving lives, decreasing illness, etc"
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Jun 16
[1] Roundtable discussion with participants from both governmental and non-governmental agencies on future regulatory pathways for Far-UVC
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[2] Moderator: Lew Radonovich (CDC, NIST)
Participants: Belal Abboushi (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory), Aline Heffernan (EPA Office of Pesticide Programs), Cameron Miller (NIST), David Sliney (perspectives from ACGIH), Richard Vincent (perspectives from ASHRAE)
[3] Lew Radonovich (CDC) opens that we will discuss the regulatory space(or really lack of)
NIOSH in US is focused on occupational safety and health, seek knowledge and apply it to the workplace. Will move through the panel now.
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Jun 16
[1] Germicidal Ultraviolet Light dosing
recommendations from the field
PJ Piper, Far UV Technologies
[2] Overview of Upper-Room vs Whole Room(222 nm). Aside: Airplanes hard, need $300M insurance policy so not happening any time soon.
[3] Club Cafe - Boston, MA example install.
Floorplan important, and ceiling heights important.
Originally discussed with clients log kill rate, but will transition to eACH how adjacent industry talk
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Jun 16
[1] Goniophotometric intensity and spectral measurements in the UV for a Care222 Excimer lamp unit with and without a filter and diffuser unit
Rolf S. Bergman, Rolf Bergman Consulting
[2] We care about total photonic output for disinfection. Wanted to explore spectrum impacts off axis, and what happens with difuser.
Lamps: USHIO B1 with and with out filter, and also with added diffuser
[3] Data shows angular difference with and without filters in terms of 222nm output(as expected). Spectral data with off-axis shows reduction in output as well(expected) and the filter reduced light above 235nm which is good.
Read 5 tweets
Jun 16
[1] Accurate germicidal efficacy and photobiological hazard measurement of far-UVC sources.
Mike Clark, Gigahertz Optik GmbH
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[2] Need better meters especially between fluence and irradiance. UV radiomerters - widely used, convenient
UVspectroradiometers - much more comprehensive
[3] Radiometers often calibrated for near radiation. Most commercial radiometers don't cover the range of Far UV-C. Also need to match spectral response to wavelength of interest or big errors. Knowledge of light source used in calibration is very important!
Read 8 tweets
Jun 16
[1] Impact of test methods on Far-UVC performance against bioaerosols
Katherine Ratliff, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
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[2] How effect? how to compare tech types? How can lab results be used to inform predictions?
How do extrapolate lab tests to real world applications?
[3] Use large bioaerosol test chamber(10x12x25 feet) with mock HVAC system.
Use MS2 as surrogate, and most importantly also did replicates.
Quantify log reduction and CADR of 222nm lamps and portable HEPA air cleaners.
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