Gavin Newsom’s recent appearance on Hannity is a masterclass in communication and debate. A must-watch for all leaders — no matter what field you’re in or what party you belong to.
How Newsom took on Hannity, a thread🧵
1/ Hannity starts by attacking Biden with a laundry list of political issues as though it’s assumed they’ve failed.
Newsom: “Let’s talk about all of them - IN ORDER.”
Off the bat he demonstrates any rhetorical flourish will be met with an informed and data-driven response.
2/ When Hannity tries to change topics, Newsom redirects him back to the premise Hannity himself had introduced.
He then demonstrates the hypocrisy of highlighting Covid’s effect on Trump’s job record while refusing to acknowledge its relationship with Biden-era inflation.
3/ Hannity states multiple reasonable Republican talking points on immigration. Most Dems would be baited into disagreement. Instead Newsom points out Dems are ALREADY addressing all issues raised, then nods to the faulty premise: “Let’s have this conversation in a rational way.”
4/ Hannity questions Democratic beliefs by framing them as hypocrisies. Border control + pro-immigration, energy independence + reduced oil production, etc.
Newsom points out these are rhetorical binaries and the issues are more complex. Then illustrates this with data.
5/ On DeSantis’s decision to send 50 Florida migrants to Martha’s Vineyard, Newsom focuses the discussion on the importance of basic human dignity. It’s a contranst to the more nuanced points he made earlier.
“You don’t do this to human beings.”
The simplicity adds emphasis.
6/ Hannity brings up California emigration and comes prepared with notes and charts.
Newsom makes a point of allowing Hannity to show ALL his data and deliver ALL his points. Doesn’t interrupt.
When Hannity’s done, Newsom adds all omitted data, then turns it back on him.
7/ On homelessness: Intead of trying to fight Hannity (“not an issue,” “that’s not true”) he makes a bold and powerful statement:
“It’s a disgrace.”
He then outlines all the ways he’s trying to fix the problem while recognizing it hasn’t been solved. He repeats: “I own this.”
8/ Guns come up, and Newsom shows he knows what he’s talking about — he’s shot a lot of guns.
He doesn’t get too animated on this topic (as many do) and instead delivers a powerful assertion: “They are weapons of war.” Then repeats it despite Hannity’s retort.
9/ Those are just a few great moments. There are many more.
Some takeaways:
- It pays to know your sh*t
- Don't blindly agree/disagree, listen
- No notes > notes
- Owning mistakes is rhetorically powerful
- Be affable, it's disarming
- Let your opponent finish their argument
10/ We need more of this in American politics. Well-researched long-form debates involving both sides. Every leftwing politician should be willing to go on a rightwing news show and speak, and vice versa.
11/ Also want to point out my respect for @seanhannity for having Newsom on in the first place and airing it.
He could have simply not aired it or misleadingly clipped it. Instead, he showcased the full debate.
12/ I recommend watching the rest of the conversation. Start here:
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