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If you know that vaccine acquired immunity wanes over time, you should find this graph concerning.

A thread about waning, evasion, time between infections, and danger.
It just makes me wonder.
What's worse for you, to catch Covid once every six months, every year, or every two years?
Is it more dangerous to suffer:
more frequent but hopefully attenuated acute infections with the associated risk of long term consequences from each infection
or
less frequent but more severe acute infections with increased risk of more severe long term consequences?
I'm not sure if I asked that in an intelligible way 😅 but I have my suspicions about the answer.
I'll try to rephrase it and explain it in a moment.
The problem is that we don't really know where the greatest risk lies.
Governments ran with the assumption that vaccinations followed by regular repeated infections would be enough to stop the worst of the serious illness and death and disability that covid can cause.
But since they've shut down testing and data tracking they can't see that that approach is failing.
Acute Covid infections are still killing hundreds every week in the UK and disabling thousands, and the delayed effects are doing the same on a delay.
Which brings me back to the question.
Is time between infections our friend or our enemy or both or neither?
The theory is that most people should have milder illness during the acute stage (first couple of weeks) of their infection if they have been vaccinated or infected in the last six months or so.
But...
And it's a big but...
But... everyone should know by now (but they don't) that you're not just at risk during the acute infection, you're also at significantly raised risk of death and illness and disability from a vast number of causes for a prolonged period *after* your covid infection.
Again, in theory, that delayed and extended raised risk may be lower if you have been vaccinated or had another infection recently.
But...
But... each infection teaches some parts of your body how to fight the next infection, but also damages your body's ability to fight *any* infection.
And so your body may appear to suffer less during the acute stage (which is mostly your body's own defences, rather than the damage of the virus) if you're infected more frequently, but may be suffering more hidden damage.
But then if you're not being vaccinated with boosters, and you're not getting an infection for an extended period, say a year and a half, what's going to be the effect of having an infection with a variant that evades some of your existing immunity?
What are going to be the short and long term implications?
So...
The infection based immunity programme is a dangerous mess.
No science, no plan, no understanding of how it's going to work, just hope.
And hope is still not a valid mitigation in a pandemic.
Oh, and maybe you want to know what I think the answer might be to the question of which is better, to be infected every six months, every year, or every two years...
I think the answer may be that over ten years the result may well be about the same.
So we probably need to work out a way of 🚨not getting infected repeatedly🚨

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Jul 13
Have you spotted this pattern? (quick thread 🧵)
Covid-alert folk who know that covid infections can cause damage anywhere there are blood vessels or ACE2 receptors say "Continuing Covid infections are going to cause a tidal wave of long term sickness and disability" 🌊
Then the minimisers reply "Well, where is it? Where is the tidal wave?"
And the alert point at the actual rises in people leaving workforces due to long term disability.
Read 10 tweets
Jul 12
🆘You should just read this.
Everyone should read this.
Every politician should read this.
Every journalist should read this.
Every headteacher should read this.
Every doctor should read this.
Everyone should read this.
🆘You should just read this.
nature.com/articles/s4157…
I was going to write a whole thread on it, but @brownecfm has already done a far better job that I would do:
Just a couple of little points to emphasise.
"SARS-CoV-2 viral infection has been known to cause radiological organ changes, even in the absence of symptomatic disease."
Those infections you're getting now?
They're still doing this.
Read 19 tweets
Jul 12
I asked 🤖chatGPT what infectious disease can cause long term symptoms of
🫀heart disease,
🧠brain inflammation,
🫘kidney disease,
⚡metabolic disorders,
🪢autoimmunity,
🧧vasculitis,
😴fatigue.
Its reply?
🕷️Lyme and 🦠Covid.
Lyme cases per year in UK:
2 per 100,000 people
Covid cases per year in UK:
No one knows precisely, but it's probably enough for one each for everyone.
"Several infectious diseases can cause long-term symptoms affecting various organs and systems in the body. One notable example is Lyme disease, which is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi transmitted through tick bites."
Read 8 tweets
Jul 10
This is great.
It could be used in hospitals and schools to light up to let the administrators know when everyone has been infected.
miragenews.com/air-monitor-ca…
I mean, seriously, don't you see the problem here?
99% of the population in the UK think that you *should* get infected with Covid.
Read 8 tweets
Jul 7
I'm still mentally processing the snippet in the BMA's recent report saying that there was a 54%:46% split of doctors who developed Long Covid before vaccines were available and after.
A few thoughts.
The first is that doctors are generally a hard-core bunch by the time they've made it past training.
If they say they have Long Covid, they HAVE LONG COVID.
We're probably not talking "I feel slightly more tired than before".
I don't know what proportion of doctors caught Covid in the first wave in the UK.
I would imagine it was higher than the rate in the rest of the population - perhaps if someone knows they can help out here.
Read 13 tweets
Jul 6
I genuinely think that covid infections have put a dent in the world's collective intelligence and memory.
People are definitely more stupid than four years ago.
And they're definitely more forgetful.
Read 15 tweets

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