Thread by @BigMeanInternet

Pro-growth lefties accuse their opponents of being out of touch with working-class preferences and focused on consumption instead of production but what do they imagine planning support looks like for, say, "fresh bananas at every American 7/11" among the world's banana workers?

I think we better get planting those pawpaw trees 🤷‍♂️

That means fewer bananas for American workers, but if we're focused on production not consumption then the expropriation and suppression of Chiquita Corp. is obviously a huge win for the global working class (as well as the environment).

There need not be any moralism here ("When you eat a banana, you are bad") there just... won't be bananas. Because it doesn't make any other-than-capitalist sense to create a world-spanning daily banana infrastructure for people in Columbus, Ohio.

Americans saying, "No daily banana, no world democracy 😡" is not socialist politics, no matter what class those Americans belong to

@MCDeiro ...and something tells me Americans are last on everyone else's charity list

@chmpagnecomrade @FabiusMayhem Rather that's the mass-mobilization of banana workers, and the way we can help them it seems to me is to struggle with the American security apparatus.

@gabriel_mathy They're imported at .10 and sold for a dollar. Banana harvesters have some of the world's worst agricultural working conditions.

@gabriel_mathy and even if we couldn't, shouldn't we expect a more even distribution of hazard-exposure over time in a fairer world? or do they just get paid better for their trouble?

@BuddyYakov Why aren't you for the creation of a vibrant domestic pawpaw industry? We don't need national fruit security?

@BuddyYakov Unless the idea is that we're going to keep hoarding medical IP so they keep sending us 10 billion pounds of bananas...

@BuddyYakov and we won't maintain the same barriers between people and treatment, anywhere in the world. I don't think we'll lack for space in the social consumption fund or w/e for those who are working in this noble and clearly useful area.

@BuddyYakov @EconomicsBread We do hold a lot of IP! 🙃