Workers were only satisfied with their air quality when CO2 < 600 ppm. Sobering.
Outdoor air dampers only working properly on half of the Federal buildings tested. Meaning that they may not be letting in enough outdoor air for ventilation.
That's probably HIGH (better condition) than in average non-Federal buildings out there.
@joeyfox85 @JennaElfman
A poll of the @thenasem webinar audience.
I agree with the results.
@theNASEM A classic thread from @joeyfox85 explaining how he also find the same issues with the borken dampers.
@theNASEM @joeyfox85 6/ ASHRAE 241-P Infectious Disease Standard
Being discussed by ASHRAE Committee Chair @WBahnfleth
ONLY applies in periods of high airborne disease. Clear risk that Public Health will be VERY reluctant to activate this (from tendency to minimize COVID even in bad waves).
7/ ASHRAE 241-P Infectious disease standards
- Values of equivalent clean ir values. They are relatively high. [But they only apply if public health activates a high airborne disease period]
8/ Some requirements for air cleaning systems.
This is VERY useful, but it is insufficient IMHO. Some of the test methods are not good enough (which @WBahnfleth recognizes below)
9/ Impacts of new ASHRAE 241-P Infectious Disease Std
- Agree 110% with everything that @WBahnfleth says in the slide. The standard is not perfect, but it is a huge advancement
But REALLY depends on whether standard is adopted by local/federal govt.
AND activated w/ disease
10/ Survey on which pollutants were of concern to US Federal building occupants
11/ The same survey on which pollutants were of concern to US Federal building occupants https://, but for LONG TERM (previous was SHORT term)
12/ Continuing survey on which interventions were of concern to US Federal building occupants
(at the room level and at the building level, 2 slides)
13/ Wisdom of the experts on how to improve IAQ in buildings: improve operation and maintenance
[IMHO this should be a HUGE priority. Buildings may be built well, but then the HVAC breaks and in many cases nobody notices for years - as earlier in the thread for dampers]
14/ The audience's input on what are the main barriers to improving IAQ in buildings
Budget is important, but lack of enough attention and standards for decades has created lots of practical problems as well.
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2/ The webinar will be pretty technical, at the level of a typical scientific seminar. I'll do my best to explain the material, but it may be hard to follow for people without sci/tech background.
I'll eventually do a Twitter thread or Substack post on it.
3/ Previous iterations of this work have focused on GUV, such as this Substack post:
1/ IMPORTANT: (esp. scientists & health care workers, but open to anyone) please SIGN (by 17-Jul) this letter to the @CDCgov to support open scientific discussion of airborne precautions in health care
At present @CDCgov is planning to WEAKEN them! (Can't make this stuff up!)
2/ Mirroring the early pandemic, and obviously not having learned much from it, @CDCgov has a committee (HICPAC) comprised ONLY of Infection Control Folks (Yes, those that told us to wash our hands and clean surfaces early on, and took forever to accept airborne) & HC industry
@CDCgov 3/ Unfortunately @CDCgov was founded on a scientific error. The first and longtime director of its epid. branch misinterpreted studies, confusing gravity with dilution. As published in our paper:
2/ "In the United States, there is little regulation of indoor air quality, and once a building is up and running, occupants typically have little insight into whether the air they are breathing is safe.
Indoor air-quality sensors make the invisible visible."
3/ "Design and engineering firms, themselves among the early adopters, say the pandemic spurred interest in the technology from clients, who are using it to monitor air quality in real time, optimize energy use and attract Covid-cautious tenants and employees."
"Using a single gas-stove burner can raise indoor concentrations of benzene, which is linked to cancer risk, to above what’s found in secondhand tobacco smoke and even to levels that have prompted local investigations when detected outdoors"
"Dr. Janice L. Kirsch, an oncologist and former investigator on a large-scale study of childhood leukemia who was not involved in the Stanford research, said the levels of benzene the researchers found coming off gas stoves in peoples’ homes were alarming."
"“We knew that when you burn methane, you get benzene. But to actually do the measurements is groundbreaking, and levels are higher than what was expected. It’s way more dangerous,” Dr. Kirsch said. “Benzene is the stuff nightmares are made of.”"
@RideRTD Boulder bus station, like a tunnel open on both sides. Modern diesel buses running
- some CO2 from diesels
- Ultrafine PM, low-cost sensors can't see (too small for their lasers)
- Diesels emits very low VOC
- Emit NO, which destroys O3
All checks
3/ @RideRTD airport bus, at the start of 1:15 h trip
- CO2: 944, poor ventilation as usual (likely go up)
- PM: 7, not sure higher than outdoor?
- VOC: 1789, from people, personal care products, bus materials
- O3: 5. From outside, lower bc it reacts w/ people, materials, gases
1/ We just installed an (outdoor) volatile organic compound (VOC) real time instrument at the Denver site of @NSF@ASCENT_USA measurement network
We are very grateful to @tofwerk, who's lending it to us for a month & to @CDPHE who is our host
Here w/ the ASCENT instruments
2/ Here a close-up of the instrument, a Vocus Elf PTRMS (proton-transfer reaction mass spectrometer)
The sensitivity & resolution are lower than for the top-of-the-line research instruments, but this is still as sensitive as the quad PTRMS who were state of the art a decade ago
3/ A screenshot of the data collected over the least 24 h for several VOCs (time in UTC, conc in part-per-billion or ppb)
Different VOCs change in different ways, pointing to traffic, industrial, consumer and industrial product sources, perhaps marihuana grows