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The UAP debates reminded me of a personal story about handling evidence and judging likelihood. I think this is interesting & amusing.

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On Shuttle mission STS-128 the rocket exhaust blew out 3,500 tiles from the side of the flame trench. /1 Image
2/ The bricks were smashing into each other as they blew, fragmenting into millions of pieces of all sizes. The results were devastating to the perimeter of the pad. This is what the security fence looked like about a kilometer away. See the brick fragments? 🤯 Image
3/ My research group collected an unbiased sample of fragments so NASA Marshall could use a realistic range of fragment sizes in their computer modeling of the event. This is @Ryan_N_Watkins and John Lane measuring and weighing fragments. (I’m holding the camera.) Image
4/ Ordinarily, nobody would have worried too much about the safety of the Shuttle itself since the brick release was beneath the mobile launch platform and the flame trench did its job ducting everything off to the side. Image
5/ However, we had an experimental infrared camera mounted on the top of the VAB watching the launch, and it detected a single piece of debris flying UPWARD near the Shuttle. This raised the question, could this or other fragments hit the Shuttle? Image
6/ This was a big deal because we lost Columbia when a piece of foam slammed into the leading edge of a wing and broke a hole in it, so during reentry hot plasma flowed through the hole and the metal structure failed. Loss of vehicle and crew.😢(image: ) https://t.co/2N8InQiJ0cspaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts107…
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7/ When we saw a piece of debris flying near the vehicle in liftoff of STS-124, we went into emergency mode. We were given 4 days to decide if it would be safe to land the vehicle, or should it stay in orbit until a rescue mission can be launched to save the crew? Four days!
8/ I had the idea that we could start by identifying the object by measuring its ballistics. My colleague John Lane had written software to interpolate between the frames of film cameras so we could combine multiple launch pad views to make the measurement. Image
9/ The problem was that the launch pad cameras were film cameras and the shutters were not synchronized between any two cameras, so each frame of the video was staggered relative to any other camera. John’s software interpolated the frames to synchronize them post facto. Image
10/ John got the blueprints of the launch pad and also went out to the pad to verify camera locations so he could do the math combining the two views. Image
11/ From this, John calculated the three-dimensional coordinates of the debris versus time as it flew upward next to the launching vehicle. Image
12/ John also measured the diameter, elliptical elongation, and rotation rate of the debris as it flew upward. (You could see it spinning.) Image
13/ My part of the effort was to write software that did the ballistics calculations and performed “simulated annealing” to determine the best fit parameters including origin, starting velocity, and material density of the object. Image
14/ The material density that was the best fit was exactly the density of a type of foam used to fill the throats of the solid rocket boosters before launch — to keep birds and insects out of the rocket so they don’t accidentally light the propellant by heating it somehow! Image
15/ So we showed conclusively that the high flying debris was just “throat plug foam”, not a flame trench brick fragment. And since the shuttle was still going slow at that time, a foam impact could not hurt the vehicle. Whew! 😮‍💨 Well, what happened next?… 😁
16/ We got that done in two days, so we we got scheduled to present our results the next day to the program managers to say it was safe to land. We went to the launch control center and gave our presentation with one day to spare.

But then,…
17/ …some folks from another NASA center had come to the meeting and they stood up and said that our analysis was WRONG. They had proof. They had checked our math, and they said we did the trigonometry wrong when we combined the two cameras. 🤔
18/ so they said the two cameras were not pointing exactly as we thought, and therefore the two videos showing debris flying up were actually showing TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF DEBRIS.

That’s what they said. Image
19/ Well I didn’t say this in the meeting (because the managers took our recommendation anyways and proceeded toward landing), but I thought this to myself…
20/ Okayyy, so we know somebody made a math error. Either my guy Dr. John Lane who is one of the best applied mathematicians in the world with works-class experience in photogrammetry, or your guy. One of them made a math error.

If your guy is the one who is right, then…
21/…that means there were 2 pieces of debris instead of just one. And both pieces of debris had to have exactly the same size, same elongation, same rotation rate, same rotation phase, same starting velocity, same altitude in each timestep, same density & same deceleration, AND
22/…our math error had to be the *precise* error that made the 2 pieces exactly overlap in the horizontal dimensions so it made them look like the same piece. And on top of this, the infrared camera only saw one piece, so one was hot and one was stone cold despite the flames.😜 Image
23/ On the other hand, if it was your guy who made the math error, then it was just a math error.

When you consider all that, you don’t even need to see the detailed math to know which one of them made the math error.🙃
24/ We published our results in Acta Astronautica. The preprint is available on the arXiv, here:

I was surprised one day shortly after these events when we had a staff meeting and an astronaut walking into the room...arxiv.org/pdf/0910.4357.…
25/ …and he presented the Silver Snoopy award for solving a problem that made human spaceflight safer. I felt deeply grateful for being noticed by the flight crew. Still one of the highlights of the NASA career. 🥲

But my point for now… Image
26/ …is that sometimes you can tell if math is wrong without even looking at the details of the math. I still laugh every time when I think about the extreme coincidences we were being asked to believe if our math had been wrong.😆 /end🧵

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2/ Here are a few of the many weird things we saw on radars/avionics at NASA.

(1) for a while, we started getting weird signals on the Space Shuttle TACAN systems and we were in a NOGO for launch because of it. We went into emergency mode trying to figure out their source...
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Some clarification about the possible interstellar material from the ocean bottom — why scientists care.

Also, did you know that not just the elements of our world are stardust (interstellar), but even an important class of *molecules* here may be interstellar? /1
2/ The elements heavier than helium were made in the fusion and/or supernova of stars. It was swept into the disk that formed our Sun and planets. So people are pointing out that we already have interstellar material here. That’s true, but there is something else more interesting
3/ We find that asteroids and comets have organic molecules in them. We don’t think these small bodies like asteroids had enough gravity, warmth, and water to form and concentrate SO MUCH organic material, so how did it get there?
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This is a well written piece by @SineadOS1 criticizing the hype that Starship radically lowering launch prices will send the space sector into hyper-growth. Mandatory reading to be informed, IMO, but I want to give a nuanced response… 1/n

ft.com/content/8c04df…
2/ Many of us space technologists have argued for years, long before Starship was even imagined, that space will grow to much more than the trillion dollar industry Sinead discusses. But we have argued this growth will not be overnight. It will take decades. /… Image
3/ The problem is that it is hard to find near-term or even mid-term business cases that justify the extra transportation cost, harsh environment, and logistical challenges of making or doing things in space.
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Jun 5
Also in the arXiv now: our 2010 conference paper “Rocket Cratering in Simulated Lunar and Martian Environments.”

arxiv.org/pdf/2306.01078…

It reports 3 experiment campaigns: (1) reduced gravity soil erosion; (2) reduced gravity angle of repose; (3) rockets firing in deep soil. Image
2/ In the soil erosion tests we got a super clean result: in non-cohesive materials, erosion rate scales inversely to gravity. (That’s me on the aircraft floor doing the test. I hope you like our McGyver flashlights we duct-taped onto the box during the test, lol.) ImageImage
3/ Not shown in this paper, but we eventually found that lunar soil simulant does NOT follow the simple 1/gravity scaling. That’s because lunar soil contains a lot of fine dust, which makes it a more cohesive material. The cohesion becomes dominant when gravity is less.
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Jun 5
Our 2010 paper is now in the arXiv:

“Soil Test Apparatus for Lunar Surfaces.”

We experimented with several hand-held soil testing tools and 4 different lunar soil simulants. An interesting discovery: one simulant did not behave like the others.

arxiv.org/pdf/2306.01080… Image
2/ This surprised us because the main factor in how a granular material behaves is it’s particle size distribution (PSD). All 4 lunar simulants had very similar PSDs matching real lunar soil, and yet one of them behaved completely unlike the others. Image
3/ We attributed this (at the time) to differences in the particle shapes. We hypothesized that lunar simulant JSC-1A has more rounded shapes because it was created through ball milling lava, whereas BP-1 (for example) was made by blasting lava. (Image: real lunar soil) Image
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May 16
Well today was a good day. After 25 years researching how rocket exhaust lifts soil, I think I finally got the main story put together. I will submit this to one of the prestige journals, I guess, since I’ve never published in them but would like to at least once in my life 🙃 /1
2/ so for that reason I can’t tell the main, new discovery right now. But I can say this:

In the Apollo era the thinking was that the rate of soil erosion is controlled by conservation of momentum. It turns out this is wrong.
3/ NASA researcher Leonard Roberts, the first person to research this topic, hypothesized that the soil grains steal momentum from the gas, which slows down the gas and thus reduces the erosion rate. It was this feedback that determined the rate. Image
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