Thread by @SpaghettiKozak

"If you support Ukraine so much, why don't you go sign up to fight?"

Time for a thread on why people who say this are fucking morons, from a guy who actually did just that.

As is typical, many of these people think every war is Iraq or Afghanistan. Back in the Bush days, that argument actually meant something. Not saying it was the best argument, but at least it made sense because the US was directly involved in the wars.

In those days you had people calling you a traitor if you criticized the war, but of course many of these young, healthy people had no intention of signing up.

Even then it's not a great argument, but at least it makes sense. Many of these people could theoretically join their own country's military.

But take the same argument and apply it elsewhere and it sounds so stupid. "Oh you don't like crime? Why don't you join the police force?" "Don't like cancer? Go to med school and do something about it."

Personally I think the argument really worked in Vietnam, where there was a draft and certain people who vocally supported the war, even long afterward, avoided the draft. To use the argument about Ukraine, for an American, is beyond stupid. A non argument.

Plus, as I can tell you, actually going here and signing up won't shut these people up. Every time I tell them they just deny it, call me a LARPer, war tourist, etc. So they were never arguing in good faith.

Ukrainians have never asked others to fight this war for them. They ask only for the tools to fight. Tools we wouldn't give them when they were trying to buy them. Tools we actually took from them after 1994. Tools we already paid for for our own defense but didn't use.