Conservatives believe that healthy individuals create healthy communities. They constantly talk about individuals for the sake of healthy communities. Libs talk about communities in terms of group rights, the idea being healthy communities create healthy individuals.
The liberal approach means individual problems almost all have systemic causes. Crime is due to systemic injustice of some sort. Education is a funding issue. Homelessness due to capitalism etc… in each case the community is failing the individual. The individual’s choices are rarely questioned or judged. Judging someone’s individual choices is one of the great liberal sins. Control from the top down works best. Collective control for radical individualism.
Conservatives approach the problem from the opposite way. It’s your actions that determine your outcome. You’re homeless because you did X,Y,Z. You’re a criminal because you couldn’t follow the communities rules. You failed school because you refused to do your school work etc… communities are made good or bad by the willingness of the members of that community to take personal responsibility.
In short the liberal approach is a radical individualist world view focused on the community’s obligations to the individual, whereas the conservative approach is a community oriented ideology focused on the individual’s obligations to community.
The major underlying assumption for the liberal approach, is any community can become successful with the right top down structure placed on it. The right rules, the right teachers, the right funding. All people are interchangeable, individual actions don’t matter. It’s all structure.
I think if you abducted 100 random Americans shot them with sodium pentathol and asked them what they thought of gay people 80 of them would say something along the lines of, “it’s kinda gross but you do you. I don’t really want to see it, but I don’t really think it’s that big a deal.” In fact I think that’s the default American position on most social issues.
We don’t really want to think about it because we don’t care and we all have our own stuff to deal with. The biggest error the left has made in the last several decades was believing their own cultural messaging. That everyone agrees with their world view. To make these issues front and center, not just in their lives, but as part of all of our lives.
We celebrate every leader our country has ever had in a single day. Do you know what the avg American thinks when any identity group thinks they deserve a month of celebration? Even a day?
They pushed too much, they made too big a deal of it. And now that slowly their media stronghold is slipping, the real opinions are starting to come out. Even those guys who vote blue no matter who are done with it.
Sentiments like this can only form inside an extremely thick bubble. Never hearing what people actually think only what’s acceptable to say in front of HR. They have no idea how radicalizing this is for normal people against their cause.
Lots of straight up racial hatred of white people. White people get good grades, then go on to get into good schools then go on to get good jobs. Because this happens too often we must stop it! The spirit of Harrison Bergeron.
It wouldn’t be a progressive breakout without a few empathy posters to explain how your needs should be subservient to theirs.
One of the funniest discussions involving crime is when activists of whatever stripe point to the dramatic drop in crime in the mid-90s. Abortion advocates pointed to roe v Wade, environmentalists point to unleaded gas, and I’m learning porn advocates point to internet porn.
It could be those, maybe some combination of them, but it was probably the legacy 1994 crime bill that said if you commit three major felonies crimes you get locked away until you die.
That bill is why people started to talk about “mass incarceration.” The fact that people don’t connect the massive drop in crime and mass incarceration is intentional by the activists.
We removed all the people who kept committing crimes and crime fell, it’s probably not because people jerk off more and because we removed the people who keep committing crimes.
The language in this official press release should be enough of a reason to never vote blue again.
Trump is brash, he’s insulting, he can be puerile and annoying, but i would rather hear his voice than these millennial man children who you know have a set of bacon themed novelty clothes in their closet.
Everything about them is smashing together child themes with adult language. Bad words, sex jokes, cartoon understanding of politics all of it sounds like that annoying 7th grader who thinks they know a lot about politics because they watched CNN one time.
It’s because the left actually can’t “imagine themselves as a Haitian.” They just imagine the Haitians are exactly like themselves and have the same motivations and values that the left already holds. The left has always struggled with understanding the motivations of someone if those motivations come from a different value set. It’s probably what the left is the worst at.
Could you be born elsewhere is a nonsense question with a definite “no.” Not only would your DNA be different but your experiences would shape you in totally different ways too. Yet you’ll hear lefties say things like “I would have been against slavery” or “I would have stood against Hitler” they can’t wrap their head around how circumstance might completely change who they are.
The whole conversation reminds me of this. Where Jez is making fun of Mark for being reasonable.