AMERICAN MEDICAL STUDENT IN HAITI DESCRIBES WORKING WITH HAITIANS - A Thread 🧵
A Short Thread sharing the Infamous Blog Post of a Medical Student’s Experience in Haiti about ‘How Haitians Think’ 🇭🇹
It has proven hard for me to appreciate exactly how confused the Haitians are about some things. Gail, our program director, explained that she has a lot of trouble with her Haitian office staff because they don't understand the concept of sorting numerically. Not just "they don't want to do it" or "it never occurred to them", but after months and months of attempted explanation they don't understand that sorting alphabetically or numerically is even a thing. Not only has this messed up her office work, but it makes dealing with the Haitian bureaucracy - harrowing at the best of times - positively unbearable.
Gail told the story of the time she asked a city office for some paperwork regarding Doctors Without Borders. The local official took out a drawer full of paperwork and looked through every single paper individually to see if it was the one she wanted. Then he started looking for the next drawer. After five hours, the official finally said that the paper wasn't in his office.
Part of it is Haitian education. Even if you're one of the lucky ones who can afford to go to school, your first problem is that the schools can't afford paper: one of our hosts told stories of Haitian high schoolers who were at the level of Western 5th graders because they kept forgetting everything: they couldn't afford the paper to take notes on!
The other problem is more systemic: schools teach everything by uninspired lecture even when it's completely inappropriate: a worker at our camp took a "computer skills" course where no one ever touched a computer: it was just a teacher standing in front of the class saying "And then you would click the word FILE on top of the screen, and then you'd scroll down to where it said SAVE, and then you'd type in a name for the file..." and so obviously people come out of the class with no clue how to use an actual computer. There's the money issue - they couldn't afford a computer for every student - and a cultural issue where actually going to school is considered nothing more than an annoying and ritualistic intermediate step between having enough money to go to school and getting a cushy job that requires education.
There are some doctors and nurses, who are just as bad - though none at our compound, which is run by this great charity that seems to be really on top of things. We heard horror stories of people graduating from nursing school without even knowing how to take a blood pressure - a nurse who used to work at the clinic would just make her blood pressure readings up, and give completely nonsensical numbers like "2/19". That's another thing. Haitians have a culture of tending not to admit they're wrong, so when cornered this nurse absolutely insisted that the blood pressure had been 2/19 and made a big fuss out of it. There are supposed to be doctors who are not much better, although as I mentioned our doctors are great.
But I was going to talk about the patients. I don't really blame the patients. I think they're reacting as best they can to the perceived inadequacies around nurses and doctors. But they seem to have this insane mindset, exactly the opposite of that prevailing in parts of the States, where medicine is good. In particular, getting more medicine of any type is always a good thing and will make them healthier, and doctors are these strange heartless people who will prevent them from taking a stomach medication just because maybe they don't have a stomach problem at this exact moment. As a result, they lie like heck. I didn't realize exactly how much they were lying until I heard the story, now a legend at our clinic, of the man who came in complaining of vaginal discharge. He had heard some woman come in complaining of vaginal discharge and get lots of medication for it, so he figured he should try his luck with the same. And this wasn't an isolated incident, either. Complaints will go in "fads", so that if a guy comes in complaining of ear pain and gets lots of medicine, on his way out he'll mention it to the other patients in line and they'll all mention ear pain too - or so the translators and veteran staff have told me.
I haven't gotten any men with vaginal discharges yet, but many (most) of the patients I've seen have just complained of pains in every part of their body and seen if any of them stick. A typical consultation will be a guy who comes in complaining of fever, coughing, sneezing, belly pain, body pain, stomach pain, and headache. The temperature comes back normal (not that our thermometers are any good), abdominal, ear, and throat exams reveal nothing, and we send them away with vitamins and tylenol or maybe ibuprofen.
My cousin Samantha and my friend Charlotte, both of whom have come with us, have studied medical anthropology and think this is fascinating. I am maybe a little fascinated by it, but after the intellectual clarity of medical school, where every case has textbook symptoms that lead inevitably towards some clever but retrospectively obvious diagnosis, I'm mostly just annoyed.
Also, if I ask a question of the form "do you have X", people almost always answer yes. "Are you coughing?" "Yes." "Are you coughing up sputum?" "Yes." "Is the sputum green?" Yes." "Is the sputum coalescing into little sputum people who dance the polka on your handkerchief?" "Yes".
A depressing number of our patients have split into two categories: patients with such minor self-limiting illnesses that there's not much we can do for them, and patients with such massive inevitably fatal illnesses that there's not much we can do with them. There are a few who slip in between: some asthma patients, hypertensives, diabetics, people with UTIs and other bacterial infections, a man with serous fluid in his knee that my father drained for him - but they're depressingly few. And even when we can help them by, say, giving an asthmatic a month's worth of asthma medication, it's worrying to think about what happens when the month is up. Coming back to our clinic requires traveling on awful Haitian roads and waiting in line in the awful Haitian weather with two hundred other people and then hoping there's even a doctor who will see you, so I don't know how many people return for refills or what the effect of having to do so on quality of life must be.
To be honest I think a lot of what we're giving are placebos. And placebos have their uses, but here I think we have lost the comparative advantage to our competitors, the witch doctors, who can placebo the heck out of us. One of our translators' grandfathers is a voodoo priest, and he was describing some of the stuff he did. It sounded pretty impressive, although at least no chickens get harmed during any of our treatments.
But we have certainly helped a few diabetics, people with bacterial infections, and the like; and we're connecting a lot of kids with vitamins (not to mention stickers), so I do think we're doing a bit of good. My father loves working in Haiti and has made best friends with all the translators and is always going out into Port-au-Prince to see the sights and taste the social life. I think it's great for my education, great for my resume, and great to be helping people, but I will breath such a sigh of relief when I get back on that plane to the States.
>swiss think immigration is too high
>propose referendum to limit immigration
>government accepts proposals
>holds referendum to limit immigration
>limit immigration vote wins
>government limits immigration
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This is not vote to ‘instantly kill all newborn babies that increase the population to 10,000,001’, more ‘take policy steps to ensure the population does not increase inordinately’ ie de facto reduce immigration. Referendum will be big test for migration restrictionists in Europe
Technocratic Basically Fineism so sophisticated and pragmatic that it has the incredible foresight to hold this referendum while Switzerland is still Basically Fine
Very normal thing for an American to care deeply about with no ulterior motives. Instantly joins the pantheon of ‘Most American Quotes Ever Made’ by the great American political figures
Search ‘Mahajanapadas’, axial age Indian republics governed by non-monarchical republican assemblies. You can trace direct intellectual genealogy from these states to the foundation of the American republic; Franklin, Jefferson and Adams etc said they were their main inspiration
Sounds like I am making this up but I remember sitting under the tree the Buddha attained enlightenment under and realising in my head that because of many of my experiences in India (and elsewhere) I had been radicalised into having a much more pessimistic view of ‘human nature’
Has been suggested Buddhism evolved as an elaborate mental cope for Sensitive Young Brahmins and Kshatriyas having to live in the kinds of conditions you often find in a place like India
Few years ago now when I was India I used to use public transport to travel the long distances between cities - buses, trains etc. Was rarely a pleasant experience because there was always some kind of low-level of dysfunctionality but it was still mostly tolerable if you didn’t mind pissing into a bottle. Occasionally would have bad trips though, worst was between the holy city of Varanasi (where Shiva established the cosmic centre of the universe) and the holy city of Bodh Gaya (where the Buddha attained Enlightenment)
Had been in Varanasi, by the Ganges, for a few days. Depending on who you ask the Ganges is either the embodiment of the Goddess Ganga or a de facto open sewer where burnt corpses and human waste wash over the worshipers who wade into the river to pray and bathe. (Seeing actual human corpses being burnt in front of your eyes on the ghats is a strange experience, can talk more about that another time though. Won’t forget the sight anyway - didn’t expect human bodies to burn quite like that ie extremities first, torso last)
After I left my hotel had a bumpy 30 minute tuk tuk ride through honking, swerving traffic to an intersection near the bus station where a flyover had recently collapsed, trapping and crushing many people. A lot of people dead. Driver stopped near the rubble and said oh you have to walk 2 minutes down this road to get to the bus station. It seemed a lot with a heavy bag but still doable. Turned out I had to walk 20 minutes along a dirty roadside and of course there were loud honking horns, people shouting at me etc along the way. Was very hot, really wanted to punch someone
I get to the bus station sweating, agitated and tired and ask “Sasaram, Sasaram”. (City where I wanted to go first.) People just shake their head. Walk around for 15 minutes and people keep saying no, no. Eventually a tuk tuk driver comes up to me and asks if I need a tuk tuk. I ask if the Sasaram bus is nearby and he says other side of town, back the way I came. We go back down exactly the same road, even driving along the road right next to the hotel I had stayed. Another 15 minutes to get to a muddy field where the buses go to Sasaram. Note - reason I wanted to go to Sasaram and not Bodh Gaya directly is Indian state boundaries mean buses don’t go directly there. Varanasi is in Uttar Pradesh and Bodh Gaya is in Bihar. Sasaram is right on the border of Bihar, when you get there you have to take further transportation. In theory you can drive Varanasi to Bodh Gaya in 5 hours, which is long but not ‘long’ long
Wait in the muddy field for 30 minutes for whatever reason then finally we go. Driver starts driving into oncoming traffic before building up enough speed to accelerate over the raised pavement that separates the two road directions, was about 5 minutes of driving on the wrong side of the road in all. He took the raised pavement to hop back to the correct side like it was a ramp in Mario Kart. Nobody cared. 3 hours later, crammed in the bus in the dark we arrive in the grimy and in that a way a little intimidating Sasaram. The city and surrounds were visibly very very poor, there is litter everywhere etc
At the bus station they say there is no bus onwards to Bodh Gaya, I must go by train. Concept of a bus to a major nearby city seemed confusing for some people. And apparently the train was the same train I could have caught in Varanasi anyway. I have to walk out the bus station, down a dark, creepy-looking track past some slums and then across live railway lines to get to the station. Here they only have general standing tickets available, so I pay 65 rupees (>$1) because no other alternative. Was hungry but the only food available to buy anywhere near the station was biscuits so I had biscuits and coca cola for my evening meal. It was dark now too so I went to sit under the one working lamp on my train platform. Would still need to wait 90 minutes for my train to arrive
Waited, bored but naively expecting the train to arrive on time. Of course this is India and karma for my hubris soon caught up to me when a teenager I was talking to (actually he was very nice and helpful - he said Sasaram had once been the proud capital of the ‘Sur Dynasty’, also he was sleeping in the station until 6am to catch his train assuming it was on time. Actually the station was full of Indians sleeping on the floor overnight for similar reasons, must have been at least 50 people there) told me the train would be 30 minutes late. Ok... annoying. 30 minutes later, oh it comes in 30 more minutes. 30 minutes later, oh it comes in 30 minutes. Finally it arrives, 11:30pm - hours after its scheduled arrival time. Except it’s full, it’s a complete crush inside… not desperate to get in something like that in India
He says, oh wait 15 and there is another better one - the one that left Varanasi four hours after the train that had just arrived was due soon, almost on time. That is, because it hadn’t been delayed it would arrive only 15 minutes after the first train. It arrives and I take it, finally on the train. Train has a little more space available but the tiered shelf-seats in basic class are still otherwise stacked like a warehouse, plus it’s dingy and dirty too. We set off but the train keeps stopping for a long time at every station along the route. Finally, after about 90 minutes (1am) it stops at Rafiganj, a small village maybe 40km from Bodh Gaya. I wait, expecting it to move soon
30 minutes later it still hasn’t moved so because it is stifling, smells of BO inside I go outside on the platform for some fresh air. I wait 30 more minutes. Nothing. Nobody speaks English. They just shrug. I am tired and angry, at the end of my tether. Phone battery almost dead. A group of men walk past, they have a little English. They say oh, signal failure, maybe the train will leave at 5am (so 6am I think). Almost crying. I ask if they have tuk tuks outside the station? At this point would pay for an overpriced taxi just to get to bed and sleep. He says no, this is a village and the countryside around it is very dangerous, there are many bandits here so nobody will drive me until morning. I am trapped
Had given up but then thought to ring my guesthouse in Bodh Gaya to ask them to send a taxi. While they nominally spoke English they didn’t really seem to understand the words I was saying, it took them a while to understand the concept of sending a taxi out to collect me that I was trying to convey. Eventually though they seemed to understand and said they will check if it was possible. I wait 15 then phone them up and they said the driver they normally use wasn’t responding, probably he had fallen asleep. Sorry. Suddenly someone says the train will leave again in 10 minutes. I said to the receptionist I might call him back, he said not possible because he was going to sleep. I wait 20 minutes and finally, at almost 3am, the train leaves. Takes another 30 minutes to arrive at the edge of Gaya (city within which Bodh Gaya is located) and then 30 more in a tuk tuk to get to Bodh Gaya (overpaid but was really late so didn’t care - also made throwaway comment the driver lectured me in a genuinely angry tone about; my mispronouncing Rama in a British accent: Ram-a not my Rar-ma), where my guesthouse is. Exhausted. Arrived 12 hours later than intended at 4am
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Woke up after a terrible sleep to find bites along my stomach and thighs. I thought I had felt something crawling on me in the night but I was exhausted and couldn’t see anything so I assumed it was nothing. Looked at the bed, there were ants crawling around near the pillow. A load of ants had scuttled over me in the night and bitten me. Was shocked but at the same time unsurprised. Felt quite woozy - as though I had contracted something from an insect bite perhaps - but just shrugged it off because I was so far gone at that point
Decided to take a walk and have some lunch before I went to see the tree the Buddha was sat under when he reached enlightenment. The town was deserted and the restaurants and shops were mostly closed though there was one in the basement of a hotel that was open. I go in and there are four Indians sleeping on the sofa in the dark. When they see me they jolt up, switch on the lights and sit me down. As I sit down a rat runs across the floor. I open the menu they give me and ants crawl out. Again, inured to it all at this point I don’t really care. To avoid food poisoning I decided not to have the meat but the toast and porridge seemed fine (it’s 2pm in the afternoon at this point). 10 minutes later there is a power cut and I eat my toast in the dark. Finish my lunch then have strong urge to rush to the toilet (humid and hot inside because no fan - makes me sweat from the heat) and evacuate my bowels. Presumably something I ate
You would think you could find a few hours respite in all of this where something didn’t go wrong but no it was non-stop. Only finally able to relax when I reached the Buddha’s tree and was able to slump down on the floor nearby
Aaaaahhhhh these western books depict such full and carefree lives aaahhhh I’m so deeply resentful and jealous ahhhhh I can’t stand these western books anymore ahhhh their dreams and aspirations are so real and tangible I can’t stand it I can’t stand ittt I’m goinggg insaannnneee
When I first read Dino Buzzati’s ‘The Tartar Steppe’ I was so violently sick that my family had to call an ambulance. I spent a week in a hospital bed on a drip recovering
Yes. See also the great but difficult to find Italian film adaptation ‘Il deserto dei Tartari’ (1976). Mean great here in the sense of I had to go to therapy for months after I finished watching it
Voicenotes are default mode of message app communication for most non-WEIRD groups. Can measure exact point at which a former WEIRD Western country becomes non-WEIRD via migration with the ‘VOICENOTE INFLECTION POINT’ ie when at least 50% of people prefer using voicenotes vs text
Britain is one of the world’s most voicenote averse countries - which should be a huge source of patriotic pride for British people everywhere. Ontologically speaking as long as Britain remains comparatively allergic to voicenotes it is still fair to say that it ‘remains British’