"Islamic Jihad denied that any of its rockets were involved in the hospital blast, saying it did not have any activity in or around Gaza City at that time"
note: A rocket barrage was launched (end of video) but maybe not by Islamic Jihad.
Our conclusions are based on our geolocations:
That doesn't mean that they are THE truth, just what we think is highly likely based on our geolocations(facts) and logic/reason.
We are geolocators, not official investigators.
Do not take this conclusion as proven fact!
To be sure what really happened different official investigations are needed.
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The Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) is a guidance tail kit that converts existing unguided free-fall bombs into accurate, adverse weather "smart" munitions.
So the whole 'listen to the sound' comparison is irrelevant. Because every JDAM could have another bomb and every bomb has his own sound. (Based on weather, humidity, wind, environment, ...)
It's impossible to compare.
More information:
"JDAM claim"=
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More information about the JDAM discussion.
(Read also who Justin Bronk is)
A lot of people don't seem to understand how OSint works. So little reminder:
OpenSource/OSint based conclusions are based on Open Source information that is provided/found at that specific time.
The facts matter.
After the publication of this thread new information was brought to our attention: we are looking into this new information.
If needed we adapt/update or even delete and restart our thread.
FACTS matter.
Ah yes: We never had more death threats than the ones in the last 8 hours.
Ask yourself the question before believing any of the different involved parties:
What have i seen for evidence that it was A or B that is responsible or do I just believe immediatly what one of the parties is claiming because it fits what i want to believe...
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IDF published footage, from the location of the hospital, showing burned out cars.
This location matches with the fires visible in other footage.
What is in the direction of our arrow drawn to the potential launch direction:
The big cemetery next to hospital.
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But how is it possible that the rocket fell on the hospital, while it 'passed' its lateral direction.
Let's look to the remaining footage.
At 00:05 a little flash is visible, changing the direction of the rocket.
Interception by Iron Dome should be a proper explosion.
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At 00:07 a second flash is visible, changing the direction again.
The rocket is now flying back to the right from POV. "returning"
The POV seems to be staying the same and the camera footage doesn't seems to be cut. The flashes are possibly the result of rocket failure.
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00:10
The camera never changed nor is there any interruption in the footage, but the rocket is now flying to the right.
Camera is zoomed in resulting in a brighter view.
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00:10 - Rocket 'explodes'
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00:10 - Directly after the explosion you see that the explosion occurred in the middle of the rocket.
You see the warhead and booster?/engine? separation.
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00:11 -
The warhead is flying ‘to the right’ from the POV → in the lateral direction of the hospital.
While the Engine/Booster is falling down.
This would mean that the Engine/booster would hit the ground first on the left of where the warhead would land.
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00:16 - First explosion, left of the future right explosion, 6 seconds after separation.
= possible Engine?/Booster? hit the ground?
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00:18 - Second explosion, geolocated to the hospital.
To the right of the first explosion, 8 seconds after separation.
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01:29 - Camera pans out to film another rocket barrage.
(referring to the fact that Palestinian Islamic Jihad denied they launched rockets during this time, but it could be another organisation)
This was our investigation of the footage based on the information at hand.
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More info:
"As noted by Marc Garlasco, a Military Advisor at PAX for Peace’s Protection of Civilians team, the impact point does not appear to be consistent with the 500, 1000 or 2000-pound bombs used in Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs)"
Please be cautious when sharing information about the assassination attempt on former U.S. President Donald Trump. A lot of misinformation and disinformation is circulating regarding this incident.
GeoLocations:
Estimated location of the shooter: 40.858273, -79.970548
Estimated location of Trump: 40.857139, -79.970870
Estimated location of casualties: 40.856939, -79.970926
Estimated location of crane that is hit: 40.856831, -79.971197
Estimated location of this sniper detachment: 40.857092, -79.970372
An example of widely spread misinformation:
In this video you DON'T see the snipers engaging. The three shots are assessed to be from the shooter. What does not mean this team hasn't engaged the shooter at a later time, it's only not visible in the video claiming they did.
We asked experts and fact checkers their opinion:
Always focus on what you DO see and DO hear in a video.
Observations:
After the first shot Trump is reaching for his ear. Almost the same time Sniper One (With the tripod) is repositioning/taking cover. Also Sniper Two is taking cover. A sniper will not immediately shoot after repositioning: it takes a few seconds to zoom in, adjust scope etc.
Three shots are heard with the same specific sound, all three assessed to be from the shooter.
Another video (Vid 01) emerged where bystanders identify the threat before he starts shooting. At 0:03 you hear three shots. At 0:07 you hear 5 more shots in a fast pace but with the same sound as the first three. Followed with what is assessed as another different type of gun shot.
At 0:16 a witness is describing the shooter to be turning in their direction.
At 0:19 another single different sound what is also assessed as another different type of gunshot, is heard.
In Vid 02 you hear them also identifying the shooter and the same sequence of shots is heard.
In Vid 03 you see the location of casualties.
In Vid 04 you see that a crane is hit (at 0:16) near the location where casualties where reported.
In Vid 05 you see the Sniper Team is still repositioning a fraction before the next 5 shots are heard. Sniper One is still looking over his rifle to assess threat location.
So these are observations.
We asked experts for their opinion what we see here. And the thread written by @LtTimMcMillan seems to be accurate. (Vid 06)
Opinion:
1. Snipers are tasked for very far engagements. The shooter was 125m away. It is very likely the was not in their area of responsibility.
2. Snipers that are using their scope have a narrow field of view. You see that Sniper One is using his scope, probably screening far away/in depth. When trying to identify the treat he had to look over his scope and reposition his rifle, because the treat is likely way closer than expected.
This also means that its impossible to state that this specific detachment failed just based on the footage.
You need to know and understand how they work, what their area of responsibility was, and what the communication was they got, etc...
Read the whole thread by @LtTimMcMillan:
In times like this its advised to follow accounts like @Shayan86 and other fact checkers.
Other examples:
"Major blue-tick accounts are falsely claiming that "Antifa extremist Mark Violets" was the shooter at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania today, who earlier revealed his plan in a YouTube video. The video shows Italian football fan Marco Violi, who has nothing to do with the shooting."
An X user claiming they got the wrong guy.
and lots of other claims.
Conclusion:
Stick to what you hear, see, and know.
Recognize that you may not possess the knowledge to comprehend everything, and it's more beneficial to identify experts and read/listen to their insights on topics beyond your expertise.
Ultimately, a thorough investigation will be necessary to understand what is as close to the truth as possible.
Be mindful of misinformation and disinformation, particularly in these times. The rise of engagement farming has exacerbated this threat to a significant degree.
Last night, Ukraine conducted one of its largest drone attacks in the history of this war.
According to various reports, Ukraine used up to 80 drones, identified as 'Liutyi' one-way attack long-range unmanned aircraft, to strike different targets in Novorossiysk, Russia (approximately 350km from the nearest frontline) and the refinery in Tuapse, Russia (approximately 450km from the nearest frontline).
During the attack, which lasted for hours, dozens of drones followed sometimes the same trajectory, without being intercepted by Russian Air Defense, to strike targets inside Russia.
The targeting of Novorossiysk is particularly significant from a strategic perspective because this is the harbor where various ships of the Black Sea fleet have withdrawn to after the strikes on Sevastopol.
Thread with all the geolocated footage.
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At night: Russian AD working in Novorossiysk, first explosions reported.
It has come to our attention that our previous investigation thread did not achieve the desired outcome. For this reason, we have conducted further research and wish to clarify some important points:
Although we had intended to demonstrate that the site was not a new mass grave for 180 individuals recently killed by the IDF, as had been insinuated, we underestimated how our initial thread was subsequently used. We did not provide sufficient context, and we now aim to rectify that.
The fact that Palestinians had to bury their loved ones within the hospital complex, in any available space, is a direct consequence of the surrounding and occupation of the hospital by IDF forces. A significant number of the deaths are also the result of the ongoing conflict.
We want to emphasize that open-source intelligence (OSINT) cannot fully capture the extent of what occurred on the hospital grounds.
After our initial investigation, additional questions arose, prompting us to delve deeper into this matter.
Our first thread:
Our temporary update:
We have been able to geolocate dozens of videos.
To make this information more accessible and easier to follow, we have named the three cemeteries based on their respective locations:
Cemetery South
This cemetery is located south of the road, under the palm trees.
Cemetery North
This cemetery is situated north of the road.
Cemetery East
This cemetery is located in the corner of the area.
By naming the cemeteries according to their geographic locations, we aim to provide a more organised and readable presentation of the findings. This approach eliminates the need to include geolocation proof for every individual video, making the information more concise and easier to comprehend.
We will publish our findings in a timely manner to encourage further thought, discussions and investigations on these matters.
This will be a long thread.
The translations were done by using Google translate and Google image translator.
Special thanks to @MiddleEastBuka, @TwistyCB and @GeoRaccoon for their work. Thanks to specific people from outside the GeoConfirmed network for the advice given.
[Every blue pin is a geolocated video between 22 January and now]
One of the earliest reports we found described the dire situation faced by Palestinians during the ongoing siege, where they were forced to bury their dead inside hospital grounds due to the siege of the hospital by IDF.
Source:
"A number of martyrs were buried within the walls of Nasser Hospital due to the occupation’s siege of the hospital, and the martyrs’ families were unable to bury them in the cemeteries."
Palestinians are exhuming bodies from the grounds of the Nasser Medical Complex hospital complex in Khan Younis, Gaza.
This is occurring at the same location where mass graves were dug and burial ceremonies had taken place by Palestinians in recent months. (Proof in this thread)
Footage from Palestinians digging graves/mass graves dated 25 January, 28 January and 03 February while IDF entered the hospital around 15 February.
Quote from
“In the hospital courtyard, civil defence members and paramedics have retrieved 180 bodies buried in this mass grave by the Israeli military." (By Al Jazeera’s Hani Mahmoud)
Conclusion:
This is disinformation by Al Jazeera and others:
This is a known graveyard/mass grave and at least partially dug by Palestinians.
This does not exclude that graves could have been added when the hospital was occupied by Israeli forces.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/21…
25 JAN 2024 - Palestinian burials by Palestinian people in Nasser Hospital. (VID 01)
An estimation of 75 graves (3 rows of 25 graves) are visible on this video at the exact place where they claimed to have found a mass grave made by the Israeli military.
Palestinians are exhuming bodies from the grounds of the Nasser Medical Complex hospital complex in Khan Younis, Gaza.
This is occurring at the same location where mass graves were dug and burial ceremonies had taken place by Palestinians in recent months. (Proof in this thread)
Footage from Palestinians digging graves/mass graves dated 25 January, 28 January and 03 February while IDF entered the hospital around 15 February.
Quote from
“In the hospital courtyard, civil defence members and paramedics have retrieved 180 bodies buried in this mass grave by the Israeli military." (By Al Jazeera’s Hani Mahmoud)
Conclusion:
This is disinformation by Al Jazeera and others:
This is a known graveyard/mass grave and at least partially dug by Palestinians.
This does not exclude that graves could have been added when the hospital was occupied by Israeli forces.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/21…
25 JAN 2024 - Palestinian burials by Palestinian people in Nasser Hospital. (VID 01)
An estimation of 75 graves (3 rows of 25 graves) are visible on this video at the exact place where they claimed to have found a mass grave made by the Israeli military.