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Nov 20, 2023 10 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Remember when Gove kicked Grenfell contractor Rydon off the Help to Buy scheme?

Well the company which supplied the combustible insulation is still raking in sales from the public purse, and bragging about it Image
Saint Gobain is a global building materials firm, which owns Isover - a company which mostly makes non-combustible insulation. But in the 2000s, it decided it wanted a piece of the plastic insulation market as well, and targetted a purchase of UK company Celotex: Image
Saint Gobain was aware through its due diligence that this sort of plastic foam insulation could be a fire hazard, particularly due to the toxic smoke which was released when it burned. It went ahead with the acquisition anyway. Image
Following the take over, Celotex staff were tasked by Saint Gobain with finding new markets for the product. They identified high rise buildings - an area where their material was currently restricted by regulations. They needed to pass a large-scale test to get into the market Image
This test should have cleared the one specific wall build-up tested for use on high rises. Instead, Celotex - like its main rival Kingspan - deliberately implied that its product was suitable for use on tall buildings in general. Former staff accepted this was 'dishonest' Image
Not only that - the company had passed the large-scale test with the help of a fire-resisting board to reinforce the external cladding. They made no reference to this board in their marketing or the report of the test. It didn't emerge until the start of the inquiry in 2018 Image
The companies sales people then deliberately targetted Grenfell Tower - sold the material at discount of nearly 50% and requested to use it in marketing as a case study to get more high rise orders in Image
Saint Gobain continues to be a lobbyist over govt insulation policy, including through the sponsorship APPG. Lobbying was a part of their role before the fire, as Sky News revealed: Image
Anyway, this company is yet to see any accountability for the Grenfell fire, or to make any major contribution to the remediation of other buildings where its product is installed. I wonder why the govt was content to move on Rydon (a pretty small fish commercially) but not them

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The report does note that the Fire Safety Order was excluded from the red tape challenge in 2012, but *the building regulations relating to fire safety* were not. This is critically important, because that's where the failures were
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*Sighs*

*Opens mental draw marked 'New Labour's responsibility for Grenfell'*

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In 1999, a fire at Garnock Court, Irving, Scotland ripped up plastic panels on the outside of a tower block. This came eight years after a similar fire in Knowsley, Merseyside and resulted in a Select Committee inquiry into the risk of cladding fires.
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🚨 Grenfell Inquiry report 🚨

- "Complacent" govt "well aware" of risk of cladding disaster but failed to act
- "Systematic dishonesty" by product manufacturers "very significant reason" for fire
- "Chronic and systemic" fire safety failures by tower's social landlords
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insidehousing.co.uk/news/complacen…
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Been at the Met Police briefing on Grenfell investigation:

- Charging files will not go to prosecutors until 2026
- Decision on charges not until end of 2026
- Trials will not start for at least six months after that

Will be over a decade after fire before anyone is in court
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... at Grenfell compared to other cladding fires worldwide. Some of the things the LFB has done are designed to address this - the use of smoke hoods to help residents escape, higher ladders, better training for commanders, new radios, policies etc
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