It is my belief that, eventually, many people - maybe most people, maybe all people - will develop severe long COVID. I don't know how long it will take, but it is only a matter of time. Here's a thread on why I think this, and why I might be wrong.
It only requires that you accept two premises: (1) that people will catch COVID many times in their lives, and (2) that every COVID infection carries with it a material risk of developing long COVID.
The first premise used to be controversial but now, heading into 2024, I think it's fair to say that it is self-evident. Many people - vaccinated or not - have had many COVID infections. If you yourself haven't had 2, 3, 4+ infections, you almost certainly know someone who has
The second premise is less certain, I think, but the evidence for it continue to pile up. Back in 2020 and 2021 many people doubted long COVID even existed - almost no one makes that argument anymore, even skeptics. Everyone knows that long COVID is real and a problem.
There are many studies, now, showing that it can happen following reinfection, and anecdotal reports of people getting it after third 3rd/4th/5th infection despite recovering from their previous infections just fine.
This is broadly acknowledged by most major medical authorities, including the CDC and WHO. It's basically the consensus at this point. What's not clear is how the odds of long COVID change with reinfection - perhaps the odds decline over time
But, anecdotally, I know of plenty of people who developed long COVID after their 3rd+ infection. So the odds can't be that bad.
So it becomes quite simple: if every infection is a dice roll, given enough infections, everyone will eventually develop long COVID. But how might this be wrong?
I have shopped this argument around in various forms to COVID skeptics, and setting aside the obvious nonsense (like the idea that long COVID isn't real, or it's just a vaxx injury) the responses more or less fall into one of two buckets.
The first bucket is what I would call no response. Statements like: "Obviously, that can't be true." Or, "You can't just extrapolate like that" or "that's a conspiracy theory". These are not real arguments, and the fact that serious people make them actually disturbs me
The second is to point to survey data, most commonly the CDC Pulse Survey or the NHS "Prevalence of ongoing symptoms following coronavirus" survey and note that the number of respondents to these surveys reporting long COVID has been flat or maybe slightly down over time
I have to admit that this is definitely evidence that long COVID isn't becoming more prevalent over time. After all, if it was, wouldn't these surveys show it? The thing is, I just don't find this evidence to be strong, especially given what is at stake here.
There are many problems with these surveys. To start: they're just surveys. They are literally just asking people if they have symptoms. The problems with this approach are obvious just from the data itself - for example, the CDC Pulse survey suggests that only 57% of adults have
had COVID. In reality, based on blood tests, this number is 80%+. So there are a lot of people who don't think they ever had COVID that we know actually did (or maybe they just won't admit it). If they don't think they ever had COVID, how will they know that their health problems
are long COVID? Other issues include the fact that long COVID sometimes takes weeks following infection to set in, and that symptoms vary so much, that many people - including MDs - don't know what it is, or what to look for
Long COVID tends to wax and wane over time. So someone might think they're getting better for a while, only to have their symptoms return later. It's not clear how this is reflected in these surveys.
Many doctors who specialize in treating long COVID have also noticed a bias where people think they're getting better when in reality, they're actually not - they just adjust their lifestyle to their new baseline. Again, unclear how this is reflected in surveys
There's also the fact that the surveys themselves have only been around for a little while, and in fact, the NHS discontinued their survey back in the spring, so at best, the UK has been flying blind.
I don't think these surveys should be completely ignored - just that they should be put in context and handicapped as being relatively weak evidence. Certainly not strong enough to base policy on.
What would be strong evidence? I can think of two sets of data: (1) take a large sample of people who have had 5 or 10 confirmed COVID infections. What % of them have long COVID? If the answer is "not many" then it's unlikely most people will develop long COVID
(2) Devise a predictive model that would allow you to predict, with a high degree of accuracy, who will develop long COVID and who won't. Some models have been discovered, but they're based on things like gut bacteria or prior exposure to other viruses which means
They're not actually of any true predictive value in a grand sense, as everyone's gut bacteria changes and people are constantly getting exposed to different viruses in the wild.
So we don't have that data, and since testing has been scaled back, governments around the world have made it almost impossible to obtain. It seems the best we can do is wait and see.
But I'm an optimist. And I think that eventually someone will solve this problem. The best way to find a solution is to try to get people to see what's at stake.
The risk is asymmetric to the downside. In other words, if I'm right, and many or most people develop long COVID, the consequences would be disastrous. If I'm wrong, then it doesn't really matter one way or the other.
And since it's entirely plausible that many or most people will eventually develop long COVID, and the consequences of that being true are so severe, everyone should just assume that it is true, and act accordingly to try to stop it until it's proven otherwise.
Adding to this thread my threads analyzing different pieces of evidence:
1 in 5 Americans have had lingering symptoms from a COVID infection. Many people recover naturally after a few months, but others are sick for years. If this happens to you, don't expect to get any form of treatment from your doctor. Instead, you'll have to experiment yourself:
Since there are no approved treatments, the way doctors approach it varies wildly. The most conservative doctors (likely the majority) will give you nothing at all, instead letting you suffer in pain and try to accept whatever is left of your life.
If this happens to you, and if you time, money, and insurance, you can doctor shop, going from one doctor to the next until you get some form of treatment. Eventually, you might run into someone who is willing to prescribe some things.
~1 in 5 Americans have had lingering symptoms following COVID. Often, they're mild and resolves quickly. Sometimes they are severe and last years, which is what happened to me. Unfortunately, if this happens to you, you are screwed. This is what it's like trying to get care:
I'll start by saying that I have a lot of advantages 95%+ of people do not have, and despite these advantages, my experience seeking care has been terrible.
I live within driving distance of some of the world's best hospital systems. I have enough disposable income that I can afford to spend (and have spent) tens of thousands of dollars on treatments. I have one of the best, if not the best, health insurance plans you could have.
I think my most controversial take on COVID, and what I think nearly everyone in is getting wrong about this, is that it's a disease whose burden falls primarily on the young. Not the old.
Conventional wisdom is that COVID is only something old people need to worry about. You see this in revisionist arguments over whether it was wise to close schools, or who should get vaccine booster shots. Or if young people needed to get vaccinated at all in the first place.
Underlying all of this is a very simplistic, and very naive view of the data. People are focusing only a single metric: deaths. And to be sure, deaths from COVID are overwhelmingly concentrated among people 65+:
When people talk about the devastation from COVID, they usually cite the number of people who died (7 million, 20 million, 30 million) or the economic cost ($14 trillion, $35 trillion, etc) but this pales in comparison to the true cost, something most people do not understand or talk about:
About 1 in 4 American adults have developed some type of long term health issues from their COVID infections. Data is limited, but it seems reasonable to assume this ratio is similar in other countries.
It was once widely believed that children weren't nearly as affected, but recent research has shown that's sadly not the case, with a similar share of kids and teenagers having long lasting health problems from their COVID infections
If you're someone who thought COVID was over and the vaccine saved the day, then the appointment of RFK Jr might come as a surprise or a shock to you. But it's what I expected - I've said for a long time I've assumed the COVID vaccines will eventually be banned in some areas.
This is because COVID is not over. It's given about a quarter of the population a new chronic health condition, and with every reinfection, it gets a little worse. People know their own bodies, and understand that their health is in decline.
But most of them don't know why. Largely because the government and the media has sold a story that COVID is over - that as long as you're vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. To sell this lie, they have created an increasingly complex web of propaganda
People want it *so badly* but sorry, it's just not. Literally the only way you can think that is if you just don't look at the data. Which most people don't. Because they don't want to.
I've given up on other people masking. It would be nice if they did, but it's hard to see it happening at this point, at least until they're personally affected by long COVID, and even then, maybe not.