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Feb 8 16 tweets 8 min read Read on X
In today's #vatniksoup, I'll talk briefly about the Community Notes system and why it doesn't work. I've previously stated that the Community Notes mechanism is a "mob rule" and can be played easily by big accounts and troll farms.

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Community Notes is a community-driven content moderation program, intended to provide informative context based on a crowd-sourced voting system. As of Nov 2023, this system had over 130 000 contributors.

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The idea of a crowd-sourced system as a moderation tool did not come from Elon - it was announced already back in 2020 when it was called Birdwatch. Musk later rebranded the system as Community Notes and sold it to the platform as something new.

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Vitalik Buterin (@VitalikButerin) has made a very extensive (and technical) analysis on the tool and the Community Notes algorithm as a whole.

I disagree with him on some points, but I really suggest to everyone to read it:

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Also, focusing the analysis only on the algorithm and the technical aspects is simplifying the concept, as it rules out the most important variable: human factor.

People are prone to bias and disinformation tends to spread much more aggressively than the truth.

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Twitter's former head of safety, Yoel Roth, has stated that the system was never intended to replace the curation team, but to complement it. But all this of course changed after Elon sacked everyone from Twitter's Trust and Safety in order to save money.

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These sackings have resulted in long response times on reports on hate speech - X's attempts to deal with hateful direct messages has slowed down by 70%.

As of today, the company doesn't have any full-time staff singularly dedicated to hateful conduct issues globally.

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Some Community Notes contributors (who are also NAFO activists) have claimed that the system is riddled with coordinated manipulation, infighting and lack of oversight from the platform. Also, many contributors engage in conspiracy-fueled discussions.

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The Notes system also has a huge problem with its scalability. During events like the 7 Oct 2023 Hamas terrorist attack, the amount of disinformation grows so large, that it's simply impossible for the small community to keep up and check factuality of said content.

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Analysis by NewsGuard showed that the most popular disinformation posts related to the Israel-Hamas war (not so surprisingly originating from serial liars like @jacksonhinklle, @drloupis and @ShaykhSulaiman) failed to receive Community Notes 68% of the time.

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These big accounts also have the ability to fight against the Notes they've received by mobilizing people who support their views. In the most tragicomic instance, @elonmusk claimed, without any evidence, that a Community Note on his post was "gamed by state actors".

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Other than being humiliated and ridiculed, getting Community Noted doesn't really have any major downsides. Noted posts don't provide you income and advertisers can decide if they want to show ads on accounts like @dom_lucre's, but most of these...

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...so-called superspreader accounts make most of their income through other means, namely through the X's subscription system. Also, many of them, including @stillgray and (allegedly) @jacksonhinklle are employed by state actors like Russia and the CCP.

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With accounts that post tens or hundreds posts a day, the Notes are also inefficient - while the Community is trying to put a note on a post that's clearly disinformation, there are already 10 or 20 new ones to replace it in the algorithm.

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To conclude, Community Notes are a non-functional and slow mechanism that's desperately trying to replace the Trust and Safety team. They work on a "mob rule" basis and big enough accounts (including the owner of the platform) can play around the system.

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In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce the troll farm/paid shill talking points on the Carlson-Putin interview.

These are the most common arguments that pop up in the comment section when people criticize the upcoming interview.

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"It's good to hear the story from both sides"

In this case, the other side is a genocidal warmonger who even killed hundreds of his own people to justify a war in Chechnya. Putin can provide his perspective at the Hague.

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In today's #vatniksoup, I'll discuss about X's massive problem with social media manipulation, paid shills, bots, and trolls.

Due to the upcoming US election in Nov 2024 and Elon's disregard of the problem, X is seeing more trolls and bots than ever before.

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Like all other social media platforms, pre-Elon Twitter was struggling with a massive problem with automated accounts (bots) and paid shills (trolls). But it was doing MUCH better than other platforms, and the company actually had one of the best safety teams around.

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One of Elon's early broken promises was that if his bid for Twitter succeeds, the team will "defeat the spam bots or die trying!" He also promised to "authenticate all real humans". Of course, none of this happened, and the changes he made only made trolls more effective.

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Feb 5
In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an Austrian right-wing, populist party FPÖ (@FPOE_TV). They're best-known for their anti-immigration and euroskeptic rhetoric and policies, and for their close ties to the Kremlin and other pro-Kremlin parties around Europe.

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FPÖ was found in 1956, and its first leader was Anton Reinthaller, a former Nazi Minister of Agriculture and SS officer. He was later replaced by another former SS officer, Friedrich Peter. FPÖ finally shed its Nazi past in 1967 after its more extreme faction left the party.
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During the 90s, with Jörg Heider as their leader, FPÖ focused more on anti-immigration and euroskepticism.

After they were included in a coalition government in 2000, 14 EU countries imposed sanctions on Austria due to the "legitimisation of extreme right" in Europe.

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Jan 31
In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American Republican politician and senator, Rand Paul (@RandPaul). He's best-known for being the son of Ron Paul, for supporting pro-Kremlin narratives, and for voting against both aid to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia.

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Through his father, Rand was introduced to the world of politics at a young age. In his teenage years, Paul studied the Austrian economists that his father much respected, as well as the writings of Objectivist and overrated philosopher Ayn Rand.

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Jan 26
In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American-born Russian mixed martial artist turned politician and propagandist, Jeff Monson (@JeffMonson). He's best-known for his career as a MMA fighter, and for his propaganda work for the Russian Federation.

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Monson calls himself an anarcho-communist, and he's described himself as "someone who would like to do away with all class hierarchy in society and the institutions that promote this inequality". His worldview leans strongly towards radical left.

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Monson's career in mixed martial arts was relatively successful - he's considered to be one of the world's top submission grapplers, and he has even fought in UFC and PRIDE. He also worked as a mental health professional as well as a child and family counselor.

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In todays #vatniksoup, I'll introduce a Belgian far-right politician and one of the key figures of the far right party Vlaams Belang, Filip Dewinter (@FDW_VB). He's best-known for his ultranationalism, and for promoting authoritarian regimes like Russia, the CCP and Syria.

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Dewinter's political ambitions started early, and at 16 he founded right-wing student organisation NSVJ. Its ultranationalistic tendencies drew the attention of newly formed political party Vlaams Blok, who recruited him at age 19 to become a member in 1981.

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