Now that Ukraine has confirmed its use of a S-200/SA-5 Gammon.
We can discuss what this video tells us about the RuAF A-50 crew, the planes equipment and what shot it down.
First, it shows 80 plus seconds of irregular countermeasures release.
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We can discuss what this video tells us about the RuAF A-50 crew, the planes equipment and what shot it down.
First, it shows 80 plus seconds of irregular countermeasures release.
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https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1761370637065470250
80 seconds is neither consistent with a computer controlled electronic countermeasures system nor with Russian friendly fire incident as Buk, S-300, S-350, and S-400 missile travel to between Mach 6.7 to Mach 7 within their engagement envelope.
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We saw flares in the video, but it is certain that radar chaff was also released, but was unseen in the dark.
As a 5V28 missile of the S-200/SA-5 has a radar signature rivaling a Mig-25 Foxbat.
This extended A-50 countermeasures release _is_ consistent with a S-200
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As a 5V28 missile of the S-200/SA-5 has a radar signature rivaling a Mig-25 Foxbat.
This extended A-50 countermeasures release _is_ consistent with a S-200
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...engagement with radar warning receiver blaring at a VKS pilot that a 5N62M SQUARE PAIR was in its initial fine tracking to get accurate range and angle for a Mach 3 missile at over 250 km.
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The A-50 crew would start toggling expendable countermeasures when SQUARE PAIR radar dropped range finding modulation into pure 'monochromatic' carrier wave illumination.
The full S-200 engagement sequence is at the link ⬇️
5/ ausairpower.net/APA-Engagement…
The full S-200 engagement sequence is at the link ⬇️
5/ ausairpower.net/APA-Engagement…
...and in the clipped text below
Various accounts say the VKS A-50 crew was climbing after take off at the time of the missile attack.
The crew should have dived - HARD - to get below the radar horizon of the S-200 5V28 missile shot and dumped most of the expendable
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Various accounts say the VKS A-50 crew was climbing after take off at the time of the missile attack.
The crew should have dived - HARD - to get below the radar horizon of the S-200 5V28 missile shot and dumped most of the expendable
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...countermeasures in the final dozen seconds of the engagement to fill the seeker engagement basket with expendable decoys.
The A-50 crew did neither because it lacked both modern electronic warfare equipment and training.
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The A-50 crew did neither because it lacked both modern electronic warfare equipment and training.
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1761086281893687500
By way of comparison, the Late Cold War era EF-111A Ravens and EA-6B Prowler's had the S-200/SA-5's measure during Operation El Dorado Canyon in 1986.
Could there be something else going on here?
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Could there be something else going on here?
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Air Power Australia reported that the S-200 was exported to Belarus, Uzbekistan, Bulgaria, the Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, India, North Korea, Libya, Syria, and more recently Iran.
9/ausairpower.net/APA-Legacy-SAM…
9/ausairpower.net/APA-Legacy-SAM…
Poland did a digital upgrade to their S-200/SA-5 Gammon system before it was withdrawn from service.
It was reportedly in storage when the Russo-Ukrainian War began.
And Air Power Australia also reported that hybrid digitized interfaces & software
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researchgate.net/publication/35…
It was reportedly in storage when the Russo-Ukrainian War began.
And Air Power Australia also reported that hybrid digitized interfaces & software
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researchgate.net/publication/35…
...were available for the S-300PMU2 Favorit / SA-20 Gargoyle & S-400 Triumf / SA-21 to control the S-200 Vega/SA-5 Gammon and its 5N62 Square Pair engagement radar so the latter would only illuminate/update the 5V28 missile.
See⬇️
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See⬇️
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Given that Ukraine has been provided Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) Engagement Operations Center (EOC) from the USA.
It's likely IAMD was plugged into the SQUARE PAIR for an illumination/uplink only kill.
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It's likely IAMD was plugged into the SQUARE PAIR for an illumination/uplink only kill.
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https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650470511695085568
Think of it as another "Franken-SAM" with the S-200 in the same firing role as the proposed Patriot and S-300 Franken-SAM hybrid.
If only because there are more 5V28 missile available to shoot from East European NATO stocks than S-300's 5V55 missiles.
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If only because there are more 5V28 missile available to shoot from East European NATO stocks than S-300's 5V55 missiles.
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